(April 13, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(April 13, 2014 at 3:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Where did you get that definition of sin? If you don't believe in a God, then how can you define morality? Who defines what is right or wrong?
You insult yourself, Rev: personally, I don't think you're that stunted that you don't know you live in a world where you can reliably predict what will hurt or benefit people, and plan your actions accordingly. I'm not going to go to my usual argument, just point out that it's entirely possible to know what's right or wrong based on the reality you inhabit, and that having a "who" define morality means you don't have a moral system at all, just fiat commands.
If god commanded you to do something that you, right now, know to be wrong, would that make it right?
If yes, then you don't have morality, just obedience.
If no, then you have morality, and god evidently isn't required for it to exist.
Dear Esquilax,
I can find that post where you gave me a link. Can you private message me that link?
Thanks
P.S. - I have faith that the standards and rules that a most righteous God has established that if I obey them then I will be moral.