(June 22, 2014 at 4:26 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Why are we even entertaining this "objective" crap? The guy flat out said he was presupposing it to be true rather than demonstrating it; why do we need to dance to his tune merely because he wants us to?
We don't need to run when he's not chasing us: without demonstrations we have no obligation to contort ourselves to suit his argument.
Right, that is what the believer has to do, assume a starting point, then when called on it dodge to "I wasn't arguing a god at all".
He doesn't want to admit that this is nothing really more than his own personal bias. In a utopia every baby born would go to full term and be healthy and wanted and the parents would have the means to raise it. But that is not the utopia we live in. All the atheist argues is since that is the case lets not make things worse by forcing decisions on people who we are not personally involved in.