RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
July 19, 2014 at 4:57 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2014 at 5:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Here a good one.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Transfor...0385721242
There's a section in there about what the bible is-and-isn't saying...as part of the larger narrative of the changing landscape of religious traditions. I like this one - because it actually takes the time to explain the practical experience of the cultures that told these evolving narratives, why the narratives made sense - here in the real world- to them. We sometimes forget that it;s only recently that we've separated the magical or spiritual world from the natural one. Such a distinction would be non-sense to the people who conceived of these narratives. Something could happen in fairy land and it would be just as real and corporeal as something that happened here, in our world. That's why the narratives were relevant to begin with.
But.....if you don't take the time to learn this, or if you willfully ignore it in favor of theology, the narratives fall apart, become useless. Instead of discussing a rich collective human experience (which is the narratives birthright) you start bickering like an asshole with people who don't think that a dragon actually convinced a woman to eat cursed fruit. LOL, I actually joined this forum for discussions of the former sort...and ended up settling for the latter. The shit these people think their bible is telling them, honestly, surprises the hell out of me. Sure, I've never been in the fold...but I was literally surrounded by and infused with "the faith" - and I'd never heard the garbage I've seen on these boards - until I joined these boards. Gods been getting smaller and less relevant with every creatard and fundy that happens to fall into my lap here - from my POV.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Transfor...0385721242
There's a section in there about what the bible is-and-isn't saying...as part of the larger narrative of the changing landscape of religious traditions. I like this one - because it actually takes the time to explain the practical experience of the cultures that told these evolving narratives, why the narratives made sense - here in the real world- to them. We sometimes forget that it;s only recently that we've separated the magical or spiritual world from the natural one. Such a distinction would be non-sense to the people who conceived of these narratives. Something could happen in fairy land and it would be just as real and corporeal as something that happened here, in our world. That's why the narratives were relevant to begin with.
But.....if you don't take the time to learn this, or if you willfully ignore it in favor of theology, the narratives fall apart, become useless. Instead of discussing a rich collective human experience (which is the narratives birthright) you start bickering like an asshole with people who don't think that a dragon actually convinced a woman to eat cursed fruit. LOL, I actually joined this forum for discussions of the former sort...and ended up settling for the latter. The shit these people think their bible is telling them, honestly, surprises the hell out of me. Sure, I've never been in the fold...but I was literally surrounded by and infused with "the faith" - and I'd never heard the garbage I've seen on these boards - until I joined these boards. Gods been getting smaller and less relevant with every creatard and fundy that happens to fall into my lap here - from my POV.
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