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Open debate: What does Jesus teach?
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach?
(August 3, 2014 at 12:24 pm)SteveII Wrote: The meaning of "until everything is accomplished" has several possibilities. It is suggested by the Tyndale New Testament Commentary that the translation: "Until what it [the Law] looks forward to arrives" gives the best sense of this phrase. This links the thought with the idea of "fulfillment" in verse 17. This also seems to be the thrust of Paul’s comments regarding the relationship of the Law and Jesus’ earthly ministry (Galatians 3:19, 23-25).
Tyndale lived in the 16th century, you're quoting me a 500 year old suggestion? Nope never mind, looked it up, - you're quoting me a scholarly work where the scholars had to use the pseudonym of Tyndale rather than publish under their own names?? What's next? "Shakespeare's history of Shakespeare" written by middle-eastern Arabs?

The Tyndale New Testament Commentary expresses the interpretation of "accomplished" in these words:
Quote:This explanation must be the correct one, or else the early Christian church and the apostles violated Matthew 5:17-19 by telling gentile Christians that circumcision and keeping the Law of Moses was not necessary. The book of Galatians would also have been in error on this point. And the book of Hebrews would have been in extraordinary violation of Jesus’ words, too, since it states that the entire sacrificial system, the temple worship and Levitical priesthood had been annulled.
That's right, that's exactly what I'm telling you. What Jesus taught and what Paul et all taught are two entirely different things. If Paul's lineage of Christianity had not survived you would be calling him and his works heretical and following some other "gnostic" tradition.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


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Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 19, 2014 at 2:47 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 19, 2014 at 4:11 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 26, 2014 at 5:20 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 27, 2014 at 2:11 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by vorlon13 - July 19, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by professor - July 19, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Ryantology - July 20, 2014 at 6:42 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by ThomM - July 20, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Mudhammam - July 21, 2014 at 6:15 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 21, 2014 at 8:31 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by vorlon13 - July 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by professor - July 19, 2014 at 1:02 pm
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by ronedee - July 19, 2014 at 11:13 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Tonus - July 21, 2014 at 6:26 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Mudhammam - July 20, 2014 at 12:16 am
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by ThomM - July 20, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Mudhammam - July 20, 2014 at 4:42 pm
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by LastPoet - July 20, 2014 at 4:58 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by vorlon13 - July 20, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Mudhammam - July 20, 2014 at 11:40 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by vodkafan - July 22, 2014 at 9:27 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 23, 2014 at 8:07 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by John V - July 23, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Dystopia - July 23, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 24, 2014 at 12:17 pm
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 24, 2014 at 12:59 pm
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Tonus - July 28, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 27, 2014 at 6:35 am
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 27, 2014 at 7:31 am
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 28, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 31, 2014 at 3:52 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 31, 2014 at 10:07 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by DeistPaladin - July 31, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 31, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Minimalist - July 27, 2014 at 10:03 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Purplundy - July 27, 2014 at 11:04 pm
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 29, 2014 at 6:55 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Purplundy - July 29, 2014 at 4:40 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Minimalist - July 27, 2014 at 11:49 pm
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Drich - July 28, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Minimalist - July 28, 2014 at 2:35 am
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Jaysyn - July 29, 2014 at 9:09 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 10:10 am
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 30, 2014 at 4:34 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 11:12 am
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Mr.wizard - July 29, 2014 at 9:51 pm
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Crossless1 - July 29, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by DeistPaladin - July 29, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Tonus - July 29, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by vorlon13 - July 29, 2014 at 1:38 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Ryantology - July 29, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Natachan - July 29, 2014 at 2:32 pm
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RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Minimalist - July 29, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Ryantology - July 30, 2014 at 1:57 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Minimalist - July 29, 2014 at 3:01 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 29, 2014 at 3:35 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Tonus - July 29, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Minimalist - July 31, 2014 at 2:03 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by DeistPaladin - July 29, 2014 at 11:24 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Purplundy - July 30, 2014 at 6:09 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 30, 2014 at 8:19 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 30, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - July 31, 2014 at 9:49 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - July 31, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by SteveII - August 3, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by Aractus - August 4, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach? - by archangle - August 4, 2014 at 8:06 am
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