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Dems need to do better and can do better.
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RE: Dems need to do better and can do better.
(October 24, 2014 at 1:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(October 24, 2014 at 3:01 am)Heywood Wrote: I'd get rid of minimum wage.

People would still pay taxes if they earned income over and above their universal basic income but there would be no deductions or tax credits. Just a simple progressive tax rate.

How much universal basic income people got would depend on tax revenues. Say the government took in 3 trillion dollars in 2014. In 2015 the government would pay say 50% or 1.5 trillion back in the form of a universal basic income.

I don't have a detailed plan so if pressed I am certainly open toward change. I just think a universal basic income is more fair and more efficient then a hodgepodge of government programs and an army of government bureaucrats telling you how to spend money.

I think automation will eliminate the need for most people to work. I see two possible futures ahead of us. The one we are headed toward...where the government dictates how much we spend on food, how much we spend on housing, how much we spend on utilities, etc. Or the one I would like to see....where the government just administers the distribution of a technological dividend and we have the freedom to use that dividend any way we want.

Of course you'd get rid of the minimum wage. Why the fuck should a human being make enough to feed themselves and pay their bills. Who the fuck likes surviving?

All that crap above is just justification for your own fucking greed.

No one I consider sane should advocate getting rid of the open market or the private sector, as if you could on a planet of 7 billion in any case. But you are completely bat fucking shit insane to think only one class matters. There is already dictation going on, by global corporatism. It is not constructive wealth that improves the human condition. It is a global competition to create more poverty, exploitation and slave wages.

FUCK YOU and anyone who thinks we should get rid of the minimum wage. We should not even be calling it a "minimum wage" but call it a "livable wage".

You want to go down this road? We can but you are in for a world of verbal hurt.

The minimum wage prices some people out of the market. It benefits some workers at the expense of other workers. After slavery blacks were climbing the economic ladder just fine. Black unemployment was equal too and often less than white unemployment. Cheap black labor was under cutting white labor....so what did the whites do? Implement a "living wage".....which completely devastated the black community.

People who support a living wage are as bad as the Klan.....sure they have good intentions but they are effectively racist pigs.

A universal basic income insures everyone has the means to feed themselves.....without skewing the labor market. A universal basic income doesn't favor anyone.
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Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Brian37 - October 23, 2014 at 8:27 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by vorlon13 - October 23, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by polar bear - October 23, 2014 at 10:20 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Dystopia - October 24, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Brian37 - October 23, 2014 at 11:01 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Heywood - October 23, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Brian37 - October 23, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by vorlon13 - October 23, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by polar bear - October 23, 2014 at 10:32 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by vorlon13 - October 23, 2014 at 10:40 am
Re: RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by KUSA - October 23, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Chad32 - October 23, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by vorlon13 - October 23, 2014 at 11:08 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Brian37 - October 23, 2014 at 11:14 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Chad32 - October 23, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Chad32 - October 23, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Heywood - October 23, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Chad32 - October 23, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Heywood - October 23, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Chad32 - October 23, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Chad32 - October 23, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Heywood - October 23, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Heywood - October 23, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Minimalist - October 23, 2014 at 12:41 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Chad32 - October 23, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Heywood - October 23, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Chad32 - October 23, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Heywood - October 23, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Chad32 - October 23, 2014 at 3:08 pm
Re: RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by KUSA - October 23, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by vorlon13 - October 23, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Heywood - October 24, 2014 at 3:01 am
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Brian37 - October 24, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by Heywood - October 24, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Dems need to do better and can do better. - by vorlon13 - October 24, 2014 at 2:04 pm

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