RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
November 30, 2014 at 10:24 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2014 at 10:26 pm by His_Majesty.)
(November 30, 2014 at 1:00 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: http://www.is-there-a-god.info/belief/wa...real.shtml
Citing a Christian site which lists a few quotes is not, you know, a study, which was my request.
You're not honest enough to admit that you just pulled that claim out of your ass. It's cool. I had you pegged right.
I had that one, the vid of Dawkins, the wikipedia link, and the vid of Bart Erhman speaking on the broad consensus of the subject.
You got more than what you asked for. If that isn't enough, I can't help you.
(November 30, 2014 at 1:00 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Hey, this isn't a poll of historians either, is it?
I don't remember saying anything about a damn poll.
(November 30, 2014 at 1:00 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Nice to know you cannot support your claim. You said the "vast majority" of historians accept the historicity of Jesus, yet cannot produce a poll demonstrating such.
I didn't know that having a poll was the criteria.
(November 30, 2014 at 1:00 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Instead, you link to two sites, one obviously biased, with a total of twelve quotes, including some from theologians, who are irrelevant to my request.
Again, I will repeat; You were given the sites which included quotes from both theologians and unbelievers regarding the general consensus of the historical Jesus...you were given the video by Bart Ehrman who is agnostic and stated what the general consensus is regarding the historical Jesus, and you were also given the video with Richard Dawkins who admitted that "most historians" believe that Jesus existed...which is ironic because he corrected himself on that very issue. Plus you were given the wikipedia article at which even a guy like Robert Price (as cited) stated that despite him NOT believing that Jesus existed, he realized that his opinion was in the minority, and NOT the majority.
Now again, I don't know what more you want...oh yeah...a poll. Well, too bad...I don't have a poll nor did I claim to have a poll. What I have is videos and quotes from men that are in the field, and they are all saying the same freakin' thing.
(November 30, 2014 at 1:00 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Now, you and I both know that there are more than twenty-three (I'm in a generous mood) historians in America. So, where are you getting this "overwhelming majority" from?
Where am I getting it from? Again, for the third time: You were given the sites which included quotes from both theologians and unbelievers regarding the general consensus of the historical Jesus...you were given the video by Bart Ehrman who is agnostic and stated what the general consensus is regarding the historical Jesus, and you were also given the video with Richard Dawkins who admitted that "most historians" believe that Jesus existed...which is ironic because he corrected himself on that very issue. Plus you were given the wikipedia article at which even a guy like Robert Price (as cited) stated that despite him NOT believing that Jesus existed, he realized that his opinion was in the minority, and NOT the majority.
(November 30, 2014 at 1:00 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: And I've found one point of agreement with you: the links you've posted are shit.
Videos and quotes of people maintaining the exact point I've argued here.
(November 30, 2014 at 1:00 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: I'm content letting the readership of this thread make that judgment. I'm very comfortable with my assessment of you as a typical dishonest apologist.
Typical? I thought I was one of a kind
(November 30, 2014 at 1:00 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: As for why I'm not Googling this, that's because my point is not to confirm your bullshit claim -- and that's what it is, bullshit. My aim here is to demonstrate that your claim is baseless, that you don't have any poll conducted by a reputable, unbiased source demonstrating your claim.
Fourth time: You were given the sites which included quotes from both theologians and unbelievers regarding the general consensus of the historical Jesus...you were given the video by Bart Ehrman who is agnostic and stated what the general consensus is regarding the historical Jesus, and you were also given the video with Richard Dawkins who admitted that "most historians" believe that Jesus existed...which is ironic because he corrected himself on that very issue. Plus you were given the wikipedia article at which even a guy like Robert Price (as cited) stated that despite him NOT believing that Jesus existed, he realized that his opinion was in the minority, and NOT the majority.
You keep spewing that nonsense about what you haven't gotten, instead of focusing on what you DID get...and four times I reminded you of what you've gotten.
If the general consensus WASN'T true, then you wouldn't have so many people (that you were provided) saying that it IS true...and not behind closed doors, but openly in public, by believers and unbelievers alike.
Now again, if that isn't good enough for you, than to bad.
(November 30, 2014 at 10:16 pm)Beccs Wrote:(November 30, 2014 at 10:13 pm)Jenny A Wrote: What the hell does any of that crap have to do with the historicity of Jesus?
And you aren't a bully, more like a clumsy toddler.
Trouble being, HM, we would all show up and you'd either make an excuse not to show up or you'd send someone else to do it and fail for you.
"We would all show up"
Damn Beccs, now that's GANGSTA
