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Thoughts on gays and sin
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RE: Thoughts on gays and sin
(December 5, 2014 at 7:15 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:
(December 5, 2014 at 6:13 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Is saying you are sorry and then re doing the act actually mean you were truely sorry?

Does the Babble say you really must mean it and change your behavior?

To me, since the Babble says we are sinners and inevitably so and that we're completely inept at achieving salvation on our own, that we must ask Jesus to cut us a special deal to give us something we don't deserve, that says to me pretty clearly that there's no point in even trying to be better.

It's like Sisifus rolling the boulder up the hill only to have it roll back down again. Trying to be without sin is, as the Babble makes clear, something that is completely impossible. If it's completely impossible, why bother trying? If we don't need to bother trying, we don't need to change at all.

This is why conservatives see no irony in being an adulterer and yet also being the self-appointed guardian of the sanctity of marriage. If you point out to any conservatives or Christians that these people are adulterers, they'll shrug and say "So? We're all sinners".

It's not important what we do. That doesn't matter anyway. It's only important to join the club so we can put the whole lot on J.C.'s tab.

Sorry I have never read the babble.

(December 5, 2014 at 8:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(December 5, 2014 at 6:18 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I don't drink.

Start. It might help.

Underaged drinking is never an option.

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Messages In This Thread
Thoughts on gays and sin - by YahwehIsTheWay - December 5, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by vorlon13 - December 5, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by KevinM1 - December 5, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Lek - December 5, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by vorlon13 - December 7, 2014 at 11:31 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Minimalist - December 5, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by c172 - December 5, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 5, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 5, 2014 at 5:11 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by YahwehIsTheWay - December 5, 2014 at 5:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Exian - December 5, 2014 at 6:12 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by C4RM5 - December 5, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 5, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Losty - December 5, 2014 at 6:30 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by YahwehIsTheWay - December 5, 2014 at 7:15 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by C4RM5 - December 6, 2014 at 4:28 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by C4RM5 - December 5, 2014 at 6:18 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 5, 2014 at 6:25 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Minimalist - December 5, 2014 at 8:16 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Lek - December 5, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Elskidor - December 5, 2014 at 8:34 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Minimalist - December 5, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Lek - December 5, 2014 at 8:51 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Minimalist - December 5, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 6, 2014 at 4:31 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Elskidor - December 5, 2014 at 9:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 4:43 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Elskidor - December 6, 2014 at 4:45 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by simplemoss - December 10, 2014 at 12:43 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 5:13 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by strawdawg - December 7, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 7, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 8, 2014 at 2:19 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Foxaèr - December 7, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 8, 2014 at 2:16 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by strawdawg - December 10, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 2:17 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Drich - December 9, 2014 at 1:15 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 5:07 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Drich - December 10, 2014 at 7:58 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 9, 2014 at 5:14 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 9, 2014 at 5:29 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 9, 2014 at 5:39 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 9, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 9, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 9, 2014 at 5:46 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by ManMachine - December 9, 2014 at 6:02 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 9, 2014 at 6:04 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Jackalope - December 10, 2014 at 12:33 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 10, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 9, 2014 at 6:24 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 9, 2014 at 6:28 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 9, 2014 at 11:29 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by ManMachine - December 9, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 9, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by robvalue - December 9, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Strider - December 9, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Jackalope - December 10, 2014 at 12:34 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Elskidor - December 9, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Losty - December 9, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 9, 2014 at 2:01 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 5:22 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by ManMachine - December 10, 2014 at 5:42 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 9, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 4:44 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Losty - December 9, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by FatAndFaithless - December 9, 2014 at 5:24 pm
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by vorlon13 - December 10, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by dyresand - December 10, 2014 at 12:06 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by StealthySkeptic - December 10, 2014 at 12:10 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by vorlon13 - December 10, 2014 at 12:12 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 10, 2014 at 12:44 am
RE: Thoughts on gays and sin - by Alex K - December 10, 2014 at 9:04 am

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