The less you attend church the more likly you are willing to support douch baggery

[Mister Agenda]

Is it just me or do people who don't know God far more likly to be overly sensitive to EVERYTHING? It's like they are over compensating for something.

It's just you, thinking you can generalize about a whole demographic from your limited personal experiences, and discounting the role your own behavior plays in your experiences.

Or they are trying to fill that hole in their hearts with overly 'moral' gestures and extra sensitivity to everything. to the point they are willing to suspend common sense and even the truth to try and pretend they some how are better than those who simply seek redemption..

Since your premise is wrong-or at least completely unsuppored by objective evidence-, whatever follows from it is in error.

As if our efforts here amounted to anything on their own.

Our efforts may not amount to much, but they're all anyone has. Doing what you're able to do means something. Theists can't do more than they can do, either.

But there in lies the fundemental difference between 'morality' and True Righteousness.

Innumerable acts of kindness add up to more good done than all the 'True Righteousness' ™ in the world?

Man's morality demands that the lessor of two evils is what is to be deemed 'moral.'

The lesser of two evils isn't moral, it's just less immoral. Our options are limited and almost always we have to do the best we can with what we've got.

As if in this case being more 'moral' than one who seeks redemption makes them somehow a more 'moral' choice for salvation.

Hands that are open to help are of more benefit to others than hands clasped tightly in prayer. Of course, there's no reason a person can't be both devout and as kind and generous as possible. Some people think those traits ought to go together.

The problem? Morality is simply the lessor of two evils.

Morality is how we determine the difference between right and wrong. Even if you believe yours comes from God, that's what it is: a method of distinguishing right and wrong. It doesn't even make sense to talk about it in terms of being a lesser evil.

Even if the lessor of two evils can be determined IT IS STILL EVIL!

No kidding. As is often the case with your threads, the title is seeming more and more ironic the farther we get into your opening post.

Therefore not righteous. (Which is the only standard God looks for in us.).

Morality is not the lessor of two evils. What's the greater evil that it's supposed to be 'lessor than'?

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Since we can not produce righteousness, we must seek it from another source. Thankfully Christ is that other source.

Asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

When we accept His atonement, we trade our sin for His righteousness. So when God looks at us He see not our sin as it was nailed to the cross, but the righteousness of Christ.

So God voluntarily makes himself blind to our sins if we believe one particular legend? Well, that's your story, and it's clear that you're sticking to it.

This allows God to love us not for what we do, but for ourselves.

What is the nature of the impairment God has that makes him unable to love us for ourselves unless we believe one particular legends out of all the millions and millions in the world? What is this limit on his supposed omnipotence, and why can you say he's omnipotent if he can't even love someone for themselves unless they jump through some particular hoops in a world filled with hoops?

In a 'morals' based economy our actions determine our relationship status with God, in a grace/attonement based economy God's love for us, and ours for Him is the currency needed for eternal life.

Our morals help us get along better and make life better. If they please some deity, that's a happy coincidence.

That (redemption) is like a Father loving a Child simply because the child is His verses a father who loves a child for what the child does or does not do. (Morality)

The higher morality in ragards to children is to care about all of them and do what you can for any child that needs your help, not just your own. What you do for others in need should be limited by your resources, not your compassion.

This grace this love is what keeps the redeemed from having to check our common sense at the door in favor for extra sensitivity to making sure we are on the side of 'morality' even if it engangers ourselves or our way of life.

All that just to get to an excuse for not trying to be a better person than you already are?