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Rational defense of Christianity?
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RE: Rational defense of Christianity?
(January 3, 2015 at 9:51 am)watchamadoodle Wrote:
(January 3, 2015 at 8:18 am)dyresand Wrote: One would wonder why defend Christianity because ill list out rational arguments against it.

1. if said christian was back during biblical days of the crusades the person thinking they are doing a good thing would participate in killing and spreading the word through violence.

2. put that person during the colonial days more than likely that person would see dark skinned people as less than human sub human and cattle to be used as slaves because they are not a real human being. (sadly this mind set is not gone)

3. racism the bible says its okay so its fine (still very big issue)

4. The days of the KKK and the fight for equality... you cannot tell me that they won't be in the KKK because those people are southern baptists to the core..

all in all i am trying to say is Christianity does some fucked up stuff and is in no way good or even ethical.

When I said "rational defense of Christianity", I was meaning defense against science, historical discrepancies, philosophy, etc. (as opposed to defending the actual behavior of Christians throughout history). Those things you mentioned are important issues too, but I don't see how we can blame Christianity for all those things. I agree that Christianity (along with industrialization) created the belief that Europeans were God's chosen people who needed to civilize and Christianize the savage heathens around them. Slavery in the US was partially justified by imagining that African slaves were getting a free education in European culture and religion and so forth. But probably without Christianity, Europeans would have thought of another justification.

I agree that Christians also need to defend the actual practice of Christianity. It doesn't make sense to believe that God is making Christians better people and ignore the fact that Christians haven't behaved any different than other types of believers - maybe even worse.

There is a fine line they need to cross before they start acting like Islamist extremists. Some have already and are in jail or blew themselves up already. Truthfully i could defend Christianity by saying its morals changed due to ethical morality and the ever evolving system of law and group morals changing over time making them more moral as people but not that much partly due to held beliefs of immoral actions.
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Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - December 31, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - December 31, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by John V - December 31, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - December 31, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Surgenator - December 31, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Minimalist - December 31, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - December 31, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Natachan - December 31, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - December 31, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - December 31, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Spooky - December 31, 2014 at 8:25 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - December 31, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - December 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - December 31, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - December 31, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by vorlon13 - December 31, 2014 at 5:22 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Simon Moon - December 31, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - December 31, 2014 at 5:32 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - December 31, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - December 31, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - December 31, 2014 at 9:53 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - December 31, 2014 at 10:01 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 1, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - January 1, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - January 1, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 2, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 4, 2015 at 5:07 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - December 31, 2014 at 11:23 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Tonus - January 2, 2015 at 8:46 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by downbeatplumb - January 1, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by JuliaL - January 1, 2015 at 12:40 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Nope - January 1, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Spooky - January 1, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Esquilax - January 1, 2015 at 2:01 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Esquilax - January 1, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Alex K - January 1, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Spooky - January 1, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Esquilax - January 1, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 1, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 8:12 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - January 1, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 8:35 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - January 1, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 1, 2015 at 8:16 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 2, 2015 at 1:24 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Whateverist - January 2, 2015 at 1:32 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 2, 2015 at 2:19 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 2, 2015 at 8:29 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 2, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 2:04 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Tonus - January 3, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 11:18 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - January 3, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - January 3, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:05 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - January 3, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:12 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - January 3, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Mudhammam - January 3, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Mudhammam - January 3, 2015 at 4:51 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Tonus - January 3, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Foxaèr - January 1, 2015 at 9:07 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 2, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by psychoslice - January 2, 2015 at 1:35 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Mudhammam - January 2, 2015 at 2:29 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Alex K - January 2, 2015 at 4:49 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Mudhammam - January 2, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by robvalue - January 2, 2015 at 8:34 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 8:18 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 3, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by robvalue - January 3, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by robvalue - January 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 4, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by robvalue - January 3, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Surgenator - January 3, 2015 at 1:51 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by FreeTony - January 3, 2015 at 2:01 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by vorlon13 - January 3, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by vorlon13 - January 3, 2015 at 4:58 pm

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