A Conscious Universe

[The Grand Nudger]

Why do you think QM is still about "stuff"?

Because it is, if it weren't...science wouldn't have much to say on the matter..huh. Do you think they're studying "nothing"? Must be incredibly powerful equipment.......

What is it, and what does it look like? What shape is it, what volume, and what location? I'd say the minimal requirements for saying "stuff" exists is that you can observe it to have a non-zero size, and a definite location in space and time.

Then your requirements are at odds with what we know about "stuff" at the QM level, which isn't my problem - it's yours.

A sizeless "thing" is about as real-sounding as an uncreated creator, don't you think?

Quantum mechanics (QM; also known as quantum physics, or quantum theory) is a fundamental branch of physics which deals with physical phenomena at nanoscopic scales

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics

-very small does not mean "sizeless".

QM is not fucking magic happening to "non-stuff" - there would be no way for us to know anything about it if it were. You're a cunthair away from being a guest speaker on "What The Bleep Do We Know 2".....and guess what, doesn't even matter if we're talking about human minds. That occurs at a different scale, where quantum effects seem to simply diminish into irrelevance.

Also, those computer simulations -are- real things..they aren't "aside them"...every bit of data is a physical thing. That's what the IO address refers to, the place of the physical thing. They're tiny little machines (discrete units all unto themselves) whose state is read by other tiny little machines - the cumulative physical operation of these machines is what we see, how the work is accomplished..it is very literally what computation -is- in that implementation. Computation isn't a product of a system it is that system. No system no comp. When lever A and Lever B are both thrown that -is- "true" (AND), "true" is not a product -of- that.