(February 10, 2015 at 2:12 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(February 10, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Surgenator Wrote: The subjectivity of measurements is removed when different people and different methods measure and agree on what a value is.Not really. It just means that different people have matching experiences. But I can get on an online game with a friend, and we'll agree on what's happening in the game. But that doesn't establish that a tree in the game is really what it seems to us, or to a million others.
Quote: The subjectivity is further removed when predictions give accurate observations.Why? Nobody said ideas aren't subject to the laws of causality.
Quote:Idealism has its own holes (big gapping ones ) that have not been address. So pointing out a weakness in one doesn't make the other more rational.That's true.
Lets take your game example. If all your experiences were from a game, would it be rational to think the game is real? Would it be pratical?