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Poll: What is "will" to you?
This poll is closed.
Radically free in the full blooded libertarian sense.
0%
0 0%
Free but inescapably (and thankfully) constrained.
17.65%
3 17.65%
Compulsory. Nothing gets willed unless I get off my lazy ass.
5.88%
1 5.88%
Free when not impeded by the will of another or circumstances beyond my feeble powers.
11.76%
2 11.76%
"Will" is an illusion of the mind, a concept believed by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
23.53%
4 23.53%
Will is epiphenomenal, a byproduct of useful processes of the brain.
23.53%
4 23.53%
Other please explain unless the repeated call to so causes nausea. Check with your doctor to see if your constitution is strong enough for this debate.
17.65%
3 17.65%
Total 17 vote(s) 100%
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Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'?
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RE: Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'?
(May 29, 2015 at 9:34 am)bennyboy Wrote: I'm saying that there is mind or not-mind, with no gradation between.  The gradation runs from simplest mind to most complex, but not from nothing to something.

Benny,
I understand your broader argument, even if I can't immediately agree. I am okay with the concept of mind or not-mind, but where in the tree of life do you make this distinction? When I look across all species I see the gradation of cognitive ability that you imply doesn't exist. To invoke the 'mind spark' that goes from mind to no-mind we should attempt to define mind based on the behaviors we see in animals. It's tough. Coming up with an agreed working definition of mind is a bit like nailing jell-o to a wall.

Plants, insects, spiders, jellyfish, and barnacles don't have mind, but I could make room for birds and reptiles depending how mind is defined. I can also accept a more restrictive definition, but cannot accept a position that only humans have mind. To be ostensible as possible, what is the lowest animal form that you would describe as possessing mind?
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RE: Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'? - by Cato - May 29, 2015 at 12:10 pm

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