RE: Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'?
May 30, 2015 at 7:27 am
(This post was last modified: May 30, 2015 at 7:50 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 29, 2015 at 7:20 pm)bennyboy Wrote: In a physicalist world view, then yes, I deny that there is any additional utility in your experience over brain function. Unless you do not equate the two?I'm afraid that this "under a physicalist worldview" bit doesn;t save your demonstrably ridiculous claim. Is there someone other than myself that can comment on the utility of my experience...are you such a person? No, there isn't...and no, you aren't. Make the claim for your own mind, if you absolutely must.
(similarly, your description of the physicalist position invariably ends up being a godawful mound of straw....perhaps you should stick to the implications of your own position?)
Your mind provides you with no additional utility under a physicalist world view (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean...). Mine does, and I'm afraid you'll simply have to accept that. Perhaps something is wrong with your mind, Benny? Do you think it might be the case..rather than there being some difference between my mind and yours.....that you're mistaken? There are reasons aplenty that "physicalists" are trying to replicate mind via AI - clear indicators of it's additional utility over current processing systems - which are, themselves, a far cry from simple. I find it absurd in the highest possible degree that you would even begin to make this claim, let alone put it out there as an excuse for proposing some greater "ultimate explanation" (down the rabbit hole). You're not only looking to fill a gap, you're looking to create it.
Here you and I are, our minds are providing us with additional utility (compared to simple processing...I assume you lean on your mind rather than a pocket calculator in order to make decisions...lol). If it turns out that the physicalist world view is accurate....then that additional utility isn't going to vanish in a puff of shitty logic.
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