(June 9, 2015 at 3:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I doubt very seriously that there is a way to define knowledge that both atheists and theists will agree on. If we just make it clear what we mean, the theist will be forced to come up with convoluted explanation and obfuscations for what he means and why his beliefs don't dovetail with reality. He will never acknowledge this, but he can't help revealing this. There's an African proverb that betrays the theist's attempt to explain himself: Where words fail, more will not prevail.
The funny thing is that IF and this is a big if, you are in classroom discussing things that have no obvious religious impact, theists tend to define knowledge in about the same terms as atheists. It's only when religious beliefs enter the mix that knowledge begins to change definition. . .
In fact it's definitional special pleading.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
