(July 15, 2015 at 1:05 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:Most of the eastern religions can be seen this way but I don't see that so much in the western jewish/christian/muslum types. They seem/seemed more interested in whether or not you believed as they wanted you to. I've read some of the bible when it comes to quoting what it says about non believers and i have been to churches recently just to see for myself. They where more concerned about WHAT you believed rather than spiritual development. Which is the real reason why i feel this site even exists.(July 14, 2015 at 9:35 pm)loganonekenobi Wrote: i did read it. All of it. I could write volumes of thoughts, experiences, and questions on this work.
But what is there to really say? This calls out to truly look at your self and think, look, understand......
He put into words (modern words) what others before have tried to do but instead accicently made religions.
Why? Because few want to evolve... it's scary and it can really bust the ego. Easier to take on someone else's step 4 moment and proclaim it as the truth because looking for your own may/will break you.
I have felt those "whoa" moments in my life. I could not stay in that moment and live in society. If only i had more skill at living off the land....to this day I still wish for that moment in my life.
you might tell me that God (of the Bible) can give me this but the one truth I do know is that in my particular set of circumstance that is not the case. It might be in yours . That's not for me to judge.
This is the mountain that each human stands before. Is heaven choosing to clear the fog and hell choosing not to?? Maybe this is what the religions are supposed to be teaching but sadly most fail miserably due to the scared monkeys in our brains.
My thoughts to your thoughts.
I like that a lot of the stuff he talked about can apply to both theists and non theists alike.
For example, when he talked about the animals in our brains, I always described that as temptation. The fog is sin. The purple blob is God.
It's the same basic principles/ideas, just with different titles.
Where as YOU(
) might be able to open your mind to the possibility that we have the same goal as far as becoming better people most pastors/preachers/fathers/decons and so on would say that you can't possible achieve such a goal of taming the monkeys with out their particular way of believing in their particular god.If more folks did what you are doing by simply saying "call it what you will but no matter what try to clear the fog and be a better person.... come to my church maybe we can help you." Then we as humans can stop wasting our time on arguing who's god is right and get down to becoming the better more compasionate people that maybe we where ment to be.
Is there a site that does that?
