Noah's Ark

[Drich]

It seems like you have been really wanting to get my attention.

Now that is funny coming from a fucking attention whore like you who shows up spreading your bible shit all over an atheist forum.

I don't want you attention ( or anything to do with your fucking god. ) I simply want to insult the shit out of both of you at every opportunity because I cannot stand obnoxious cunts like you.

Got it now, shithead?

your words say no, but all of your efforts and comments say YES!!!

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Again immaterial. As we are discussing the story recorded in Genesis.

Genesis in a nutshell......

Satan fucks up gods divine plan with a few well chosen words.

God then spends next six thousand years trying to fix things up

AND STILL HASN'T SUCCEEDED!!!

Well played Satan.

Very well played.

Please explain. What did satan mess up, and what has God done that did not work?

God creates gardener and general handyman(plus assistant) to maintain his garden of eden.

Says don't touch that tree there or on that day you will surely die( lie number one)

The snake(satan) talks the assistant into eating the fruit of the tree.

God throws a snit and throws them out(notice that contrary to his previous statement they do NOT die on that day) BTW what sort of threat is death to someone who has no experience of it at all?

Evil builds in the world until god decides to wipe out all life in a major extinction event because of the sins of man.

Any half competent deity would've just sent a plague to eliminate people, but not this bumbling fool.

This attempt fails so that 2500 years later(approx) he sends himself as his son in order to sacrifice himself to himself to atone for our sins because that's the way he made us in the first place.

Apparently this attempt also fails because in the 2000 years since there has been nothing but evil, strife and misery in the world( strangely enough, most of it caused by religion.)

Anything I've left out?

It's your story you tell me.

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So no one of other faiths prays?

It prayer an experience?

No one of other faiths believes that god has answered their prayers and that is proof of their gods existence?

Answered prayers is NOT the proof of God in Christianity. I will agree it is in other religions. In Christianity Prayer is not the formalized wishing cermony it is in other religions.

No other books say these same things that your book says?

No other book! (I have taken some time and studied if you wish to discuss)

Come now. Of course they do.

How much time have you devoted in the last 20 to that assertion? Or are you simply relying on your peers that say they do?

It is not an oversimplification if it really is that simple. It is the religious folks who try to make it more "more complicated than that". People in Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc all believe that they have a personal relationship with god.

That statement is sacrilege in all of those religions, by virtue of their own governing doctrines.

The circular logic runs like this: I know god is real because the bible tells me he is. I know the bible is real because my experience of god verifies it. My experience of god is real because it matches what was written in the bible. I know the bible is real because my experience of god verifies it. my experience of god is real because the bible says it is. And so on ad infinitum. Every religion says this. If we can't at least agree on that then there is no point in continuing this discussion.

Actually your effort here is a fallacy of Irrelevant conclusion. Your efforts diverts attention away from a fact in dispute rather than addressing them directly.