(October 26, 2012 at 1:42 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: The problem with both is that they coddle men with more resources than they possibly can spend and have no history of investing it significantly.
Tiberius et al might claim it is their right to keep their gains, but I've been of the firm opinion that your rights end when you stand by and don't even support those less fortunate than you, with respect to basic human rights like basic housing, food and health care.
If someone is starving not out of their own volition in your country and you have the riches and resources to stop it, you have a moral obligation.
And when enough people forget that moral obligation, then it falls to the government to enforce that until people voluntarily pick up the slack.
Every rich man collected money from his community.
Old-style conservatives and old-style liberals both knew and embraced that. They also talked big about contributing back to their country.
The new ones simply care only about their own riches and fuck everyone who has less than them.
They're going beyond that. They're claiming that giving the wealthy what they want, massive deregulation, control over giant media empires, tax cuts, corporate welfare, they're saying that's for the good of our society and our economy. Where do you think the term 'job creator' came from?
Truth be told, I have no issue with them being able to get more of what they want as long as they're actually using it to help the economy. I say, the millionaires want to keep their tax cuts, fine: they can keep them as long as they're actually using those tax cuts to create jobs. They get to keep a percentage of the tax cut depending on how many new jobs they create here in the US (and, no, that doesn't include sweat shop jobs overseas or India call centers and, no, it doesn't include jobs in places like Guam which are technically US territories but US labor laws don't apply).
If the job creator class is actually doing their job and creating jobs, they get to keep their tax cuts. If not, I'd rather the government get the money and use it towards government jobs, pay off government debt or to liven up social security. I don't want to give a huge tax cut to some plutocrat who's just going to use it to buy slave labor in China.
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"If you cling to something as the absolute truth and you are caught in it, when the truth comes in person to knock on your door you will refuse to let it in." ~ Siddhartha Gautama