RE: What makes a person bad?
December 3, 2014 at 6:09 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2014 at 6:40 pm by Violet.)
(December 2, 2014 at 11:21 pm)Jenny A Wrote: But having read and thought, I think a bad person who does bad things without remorse on a regular basis. It's a practical rather than a deep definition.
So... you shy away from defining a 'bad person', but you feel you can decide upon what constitutes a 'bad thing'?
It's a nonsensical rather than a deep definition. 'Good people' can do 'bad things' with 'good' reasons, 'bad' people can do 'good' things with 'bad' reasons... can't you see? They are all JUST PEOPLE... who do things... some of them 'good', some of them 'bad'... some of them 'good' to you but 'bad' to them, some of them 'bad' to you but 'good' to them!
The entire question breaks down subjectively. A good person and a bad person are nothing more than a reflection of yourself.
... Or worse... a projection of yourself.
(December 3, 2014 at 1:43 am)Rob216 Wrote: I think a person would be considered "bad" if they keep repeating the same action. For example, I wouldn't call a person that did cocaine once or twice a drug addict, but if they used it every day I would. Although I will admit that some actions, to me, are unforgivable even if they were only committed one time. Pedophilia comes to mind.
Vegans are horrible people, look at them eating beans all the time! How awful.
(December 3, 2014 at 1:54 am)Exian Wrote: 2. A person without an addiction and knowing full well the laws against the purchasing and use of drugs, seeks out and uses whatever drug.
It almost seems like #2 has the more deplorable action. Although, we don't know their full story. Could be systemic- could be a mental breakdown do to a strenuous life situation?
Yes, it's utterly deplorable to break laws intentionally... might truly makes right.
People can have any reason for performing any action. Whether that action is good, bad, or totally fucking awesome? That is a question only of one's personal judgement of the action, oft modified by their understanding of the reasoning behind such...
Justification, if you will. After all, breaking the law is truly unjust.
(December 3, 2014 at 2:22 am)psychoslice Wrote: No one in this thread can be right or wrong, because there is no such thing.
Rather, they wouldn't know the right thing from the wrong thing. Indeed.. who could?
(December 3, 2014 at 11:25 am)Jenny A Wrote: My definition tells me who to avoid dealing with and who to warn others against.
Right, the one where they do it with no remorse... because crying after every murder totally makes the serial killer so upstanding and good indeed indeed.
"I'm sorry, I'm sorry I'm such a monster!" after every rape really starts to wear on me, I dunno about you.
(December 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm)Rob216 Wrote: So rather than describing the people you'd want to avoid as "bad" would you instead describe them as destructive or harmful? The point I'm getting at is I think we are just squabbling over terms.
Love can be both destructive and harmful... it allows another the ability to hurt you, and it can demonstrably break down people's lives.
Love is like, the worst. Seriously, though: damn near everyone has elements to them that are harmful to someone (either themselves or someone else)... and simply being human causes catastrophic change everywhere... whether it be in chopping down the forest, or extincting a species, or encouraging 'righteousness and justice' by way of holy war...
Being human is bad. It's bad for them, and it's bad for everything around them... just how bad does a human have to be in your eyes before they're "bad" even among their fellows?
What do they have to do? How much hurt and annihilation must they be responsible for before you're willing to call them out for what they are?!
(December 3, 2014 at 6:08 pm)Mothonis_Cathicgal Wrote: Well how i see it is we all have urges or things in our life to pressure us into only think about ourselves and not care if we hurt others,but it falls on everyone to overcome this problem.
And some people think only of another, or others... doing everything in their power to ensure that they're safe, or that they're going to succeed. Good things... and bad things too. Caring for another/others does not preclude one person hurting others... it certainly doesn't preclude them from hurting themselves.
To hell with what they might want in life! What do they matter? Not at all, they say to themselves. Not. At. All.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
