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Poll: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged?
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Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged?
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RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged?
(January 15, 2016 at 1:06 pm)pool the great Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Kingpin Wrote: What do you think it means to "be" a man?  It sound like you have an idea that is most likely going to fall in to the stereotypes you outlined in the OP. Throughout generations this definition of what it was to "be" a man has changed.  In the Victorian era, this was what was expected to "be" a man:

Victorian social etiquette for gentlemen in the presence of ladies:
  • Stand when a lady enters a room.
  • Stand when a lady stands.
  • Offer a lady your seat if no other seat is available.
  • Assist the lady with her chair when she sits or stands. Especially at a table.
  • Retrieve dropped items for a lady.
  • Open doors for a lady.
  • Help a lady with her coat, cloak or shawl.
  • Offer to bring a lady refreshments if they are available.
  • Offer your arm to escort a lady (with whom you are acquainted) into or out of a building or a room at all social events, and whenever walking on uneven ground.
Basic social rules of things a gentleman should never do:
  • Never refer to another person by their first name in public.
  • Never curse or discuss “impolite” subjects when ladies are present.
  • Never leave a lady you know unattended, except with permission.
  • Never use tobacco in any form when ladies are present.
  • Never greet a lady in public unless she acknowledges you first.
Is this what it means to "be" a man, or are these reserved for "gentlemen".  Being a pompous neanderthal in my book is not "being" a man.

Yes, I did mean the stereotypical characteristics. Why is there a negative aura attached to those qualities in a man?

Because in reality evolution is not a script. Humans are individuals, not sheep. 

It is ok for example, for a women to go to a nude beach. It is ok for a women to cuss. None of those things are saying it is ok in all contexts. A man cant strip naked on a public bus. Nor is it ok for women or men to shout cuss words at a kindergarten class.  It is also ok for a man to cry. It is also ok for a man to be financially supported by a woman. What matters is CONSENT, not who does what.

There is nothing negative about telling someone to mind their own business. Unless you are involved you have no say. Clear enough for you?
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RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 9:33 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by MTL - January 18, 2016 at 1:05 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Regina - January 15, 2016 at 12:01 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 15, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 15, 2016 at 2:30 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 15, 2016 at 2:38 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 15, 2016 at 2:48 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 2:43 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Ben Davis - January 15, 2016 at 9:34 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 9:51 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by drfuzzy - January 15, 2016 at 11:50 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Ben Davis - January 15, 2016 at 1:21 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Ben Davis - January 18, 2016 at 9:55 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Ben Davis - January 18, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Grandizer - January 18, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Ben Davis - January 19, 2016 at 9:23 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Ben Davis - January 19, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Grandizer - January 15, 2016 at 5:41 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 9:55 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 10:02 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by *Deidre* - January 15, 2016 at 9:58 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 10:06 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by c172 - January 19, 2016 at 9:55 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by abaris - January 15, 2016 at 10:14 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by *Deidre* - January 15, 2016 at 10:15 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by MTL - January 18, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 15, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Brian37 - January 15, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Aoi Magi - January 15, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 15, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by MTL - January 18, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Kingpin - January 15, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by drfuzzy - January 15, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by drfuzzy - January 15, 2016 at 1:33 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Brian37 - January 15, 2016 at 1:25 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 15, 2016 at 1:56 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 21, 2016 at 10:46 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 21, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 21, 2016 at 10:55 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Divinity - January 15, 2016 at 12:20 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 15, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by drfuzzy - January 15, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 15, 2016 at 2:00 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 15, 2016 at 1:57 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 15, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by drfuzzy - January 15, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by drfuzzy - January 15, 2016 at 2:23 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 2:28 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by drfuzzy - January 15, 2016 at 3:01 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 15, 2016 at 2:47 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by brewer - January 15, 2016 at 2:48 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Brian37 - January 15, 2016 at 6:53 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by brewer - January 15, 2016 at 6:21 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 18, 2016 at 5:14 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Grandizer - January 19, 2016 at 4:03 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Grandizer - January 19, 2016 at 4:26 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Grandizer - January 19, 2016 at 4:38 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 20, 2016 at 9:04 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 20, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Ben Davis - January 20, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 20, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Mothonis - January 19, 2016 at 10:40 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by vorlon13 - January 19, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 20, 2016 at 12:27 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 20, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 20, 2016 at 11:09 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 20, 2016 at 9:28 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Longhorn - January 20, 2016 at 11:14 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 21, 2016 at 2:24 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 21, 2016 at 6:39 am
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 21, 2016 at 5:22 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 21, 2016 at 7:26 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 21, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by paulpablo - January 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 21, 2016 at 8:43 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by drfuzzy - January 21, 2016 at 8:51 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Losty - January 21, 2016 at 9:04 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Athene - January 21, 2016 at 9:31 pm
RE: Should Gender Stereotypes be challenged? - by Whateverist - January 21, 2016 at 10:53 pm

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