RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 20, 2017 at 10:13 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2017 at 10:19 pm by Aroura.)
(January 20, 2017 at 5:54 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(January 20, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Aroura Wrote: Look, if you just want to compare god to something that cannot be proven to exist, you can use Russel's Teapot as a great example.
Yes, that would be far less contemptuous. It should be noted that Russell was not so arrogant as to say there is no evidence. I believe he was careful enough to say there was insufficient evidence - a very big difference.
(January 20, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Aroura Wrote: A lot of great minds have wasted effort trying to rationalize this one extraordinary claim as an exception when it meets no criteria to BE an exception, but instead should be held to the same standard.
Among all the accusations and recriminations did you happen to notice my explanation of why that the comparison is a category error. No one seems to have addressed it other than say "no it's not."
Also no I didn't, and to be honest, I don't feel like wading through the dog pile that is this thread to find it. If you post it again, or a link, I'd actually be interested in reading it.
(January 20, 2017 at 10:12 pm)Jesster Wrote: Wow no. I really don't see it as a reasonable thing to be offended by. I admit that they have every right to be offended, but their offense is on their end and not mine. Until they convince me that it is actually offensive, I am not going to lie or withhold my thoughts on this just to make them feel better.
Beliefs change. They are not a part of you. They are a product of the world around you. Instead of just getting flustered, it's much more productive to use reasoning to tell me why God and the Tooth Fairy shouldn't be compared. So far I'm not convinced by any of the arguments, so my mind has not been changed. I'm not sorry we don't agree.
Also, I'm not running down the street shoving this in anyone's face. It's kept in tidy little boxes on a forum. If it's valid to the discussion, I will be honest about my thoughts. I will be absolutely fine if you try to persuade me away from those thoughts, but calling me a douchebag is the last way that you're going to do that. If you can't handle that, don't make the thread.
I completely agree, as I said in my post, that since we are on an atheist forum, this is the place to say it. I also don't think anyone saying it is a douchbag at all. I just could also see why they felt insulted.
I do think making people uncomfortable in their belief is one way to change them, and this insult seems pretty minor.
Personally though, after hearing how insulting it seems from their side, I would stick by the validity of the argument itself, but realize it wasn't going to change a mind, most likely, if that was my goal.
This is what happens when I do my Dialectical behavior therapy and try and see both sides of an argument, lol.
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