(January 22, 2017 at 9:42 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:(January 21, 2017 at 8:57 pm)phoenix31 Wrote: I've heard that most of the disciples were martyred for their faith (I have a link about this but I'm too new to post it.) I don't know where this information comes from, since it doesn't come from the Bible.
When I speak to Christians, they say no one would die for a scam and therefore the stories about Jesus must be true. Thoughts?
Jim Jones wasn't a scammer? There are a myriad of miriads of accounts of people being lead to their deaths by conmen and charlatans. There is no evidence that on at least some levels christianities are much different.
I've always wondered about all the Christians that recanted on threat of death. Its funny you don't seem to hear about them. Also the proportion of who recanted and who chose martyrdom.