(August 23, 2012 at 9:21 am)festive1 Wrote: I'm guessing you don't have kids.
Irrelevant. We're talking about facts, not my personal life.
Quote:When anyone experiences that biological process there's no denying that the male is in the waiting room and the female is the one whose body has sustained and brought forth life, even if the male is there holding the female's hand (sorry fellas!).
Well, I'm glad that your biological process totally trumped your knowledge of biology. When you can spontaneously conceive without a man, you'll have an argument.
Quote:We are just highly evolved mammals, and females bear the young, men donate the sperm.
By that logic, men provide half the DNA, you donate the egg, the other half and the uterus. I think you are seriously inflating your role in reproduction.
Quote:I don't see why, if we reject the bible's god, then why do we have to look at the bible's language to try to make some sense of it? It's rubbish and not to be trusted about anything.
What else would you do? If you don't believe in the Bible, then why would you believe enough in god to try to redetermine his sex. I think you just regard yourself as better for being female and so insist a god you do not believe in is female as well. I hope I'm wrong.
Quote:I don't mince the words of the bible in the same way I don't dissect the words of the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Aeneid. Sure, they're great classics of the Western tradition, but I'm not going to try eek out some clues about the universe from them.
Do you go around changing the sex of people in those books? Mincing words is exactly what you did. It says he and you assumed she.
Quote:If we believe that the bible was divinely inspired, it was actually written by men. Males thousands of years ago, who viewed women as chattel to be ushered from their father's home to their husband's. I don't think men brought up in this cultural environment would interject a female into their writing, even if god ordered them to.
We don't believe it was divinely inspired. We're atheists. The Bible was written by chest thumpers about a guy. A guy.
Quote:This was the 7th century, again, not such a great time for women.
Which explains why a work of fiction features a divine male. Male.
Quote: The whole thing is a wash and not to be considered a reliable source.
Are you sure you're an atheist? It is the only reliable source for the fictional character of god. If you're seeking god outside of the Bible, good for you, but if I ran around saying Liz Bennet was a male, people would laugh at me.
Quote:When arguing with Christians, I have found the god created man in his own image, ergo god is female argument to be quite effective. That's why I posted it.
Really? Somehow I doubt that Christians go all "Oh my god, you're right." when you whip that one out. Forgive my sarcasm. It's how I react to weirdness.
