RE: Would you be an atheist if science and reason wasn't supportive of atheism?
December 7, 2012 at 2:14 am
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2012 at 2:24 am by Vincenzo Vinny G..)
(December 7, 2012 at 1:52 am)Rhythm Wrote:What in the world are you talking about? In conversation? What does the conversation have to do with the event?(December 7, 2012 at 12:34 am)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: So something can have two mutually exclusive properties at the same time?At the same time in conversation, yep. At the same time with reference to the event, nope. You clearly haven't been paying attention (even to yourself) We might reference an a priori understanding of the odds of any given event alongside the certainty of that event as we know that it occurred. You know, before...and after.
Quote:Ie, you're willing to violate a fundamental tenet of logic?I have to make no such choice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradiction
You gotta choose between the logical law of noncontradiction (which says something can't be improbable and certain simultaneously), and your understanding of probability calculus.
I suggest you drop your understanding of probability calculus.
Are you ever going to calculate the probability of your last post?
The probability of getting heads on a coin flip is 1/2 or 50%. If you get a heads, the probability doesn't become 100% for heads. One of the probable outcomes merely becomes actualized.
If you flip the coin again, you have a 50% chance of getting tails.
This crazy theory of yours that events in the past are subject to probabilistic certainty simply because they occurred isn't reflected in any science or math concept I've ever seen. If it has, cite your sources.
Until then, the improbability of the universe stands.
You added something to your post though:
Quote:Before the fact....the exact post, at that exact time, in those exact words, from you exactly as you are (invoke a stream of variables following this too long to even list).....highly improbable. But here we sit, staring at the certainty of your last post, regardless. 1:1. That's the probability of an event that is known to have occurred. I'll keep saying it until it sinks in. It's not some sort of computational arcana, it's not even advanced math, it's some pretty fundamental shit Vinny.
Haha. This is hilarious.
So if I flip a coin and it lands on it's edge it's not an improbable event?
Listen to what you are saying. If you wake up tomorrow and you find you have three arms, that's not an improbable event?
Your theory is imaginary nonsense.
If an improbable event occurred, it is still an improbable event. This is the stuff criminal investigations are grounded it.
Nobody looks at a suspect who fits an eyewitness description, whos shoes match the footprints, who possesses a bloody weapon AND whose fingerprints are found at the crime scene and thinks "This isn't unusual or improbable at all. He can't be a suspect."