RE: Question about female worth in islam.
February 14, 2013 at 7:40 am
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2013 at 7:57 am by WinterHold.)
(February 13, 2013 at 2:42 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote:(February 13, 2013 at 2:31 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Kayenneh, Dee
A person won't understand the punishment until he/she go through rape.
I have watched a video before a weak or so about a british -I think ? - reporter who got raped in Libya. Now that video, I prefer to die before watching it again.
I'm sorry too.. But I think if that woman was still alive she would've killed them herself. I think many raped women agree on that, what I think is uncivilized & brutal, is to allow those monsters to live.
Hey AtlaSS. I look at punishments totally different than you. I don't need to see that snuff-movie or get raped to have my own perspective.
Anyway, I was hoping you were going to answer to this question;
By the way, what's the punishment for women that actually are 'whores' or 'bitches'?
The penalty for sex without legal & official contract which indicates that a marriage has been taken place between the subjects, is dealt with by 100 lashes -either the subject is a man or a woman-.
This of course is also a part of what we call sex control, there is no penalty for being a whore, but there is a penalty for having sex without an official contract.
Indeed I would enjoy justifying that
(February 13, 2013 at 3:44 pm)Zone Wrote: In Islamic culture women are really just meant to stay at home and look after the children. Though the same thing applied to Christian European culture up until just over 100 years ago.
Arabic, you mean.
In Islamic culture, men & women are equal, and nobody was asked to stay home.
In arabic culture, women are inferior, and supposed to stay home.
Zone, the Quran gives many stories about brave women who committed heroic acts, some of them defied lords & kings. Some of them traveled east & west just to serve god, some of them were Queens !!
And we are supposed to follow in the footsteps of these women.
You'll find this verse in the Quran ; page 561 verse 10 :
"God gave in example for the believers, the pharaoh's wife, ..."
verse 11 same page :
"and -the example continues- Mary,daughter of Amran -jesus's mother, I'm just kinda lazy to try to translate her father's name-..."
So, for now mister Zone, my example in this life is a woman a lot of men even today feel ashamed from following the footsteps of women.
Muslims,1400 years ago, were taught that they & women are one, and they should follow their footsteps. Stunning.
You also have the story of Balqees, the Queen of Saba. Now that was a woman, a believer & also a queen ! so obviously islam has no problem in women leading men : )
you'll find the story of this splendid girl in page 428
I don't think you're right on these one, Zone. You should read more about women role in Islam.
Take a look here :
(February 13, 2013 at 2:42 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote:(February 13, 2013 at 2:31 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Kayenneh, Dee
A person won't understand the punishment until he/she go through rape.
I have watched a video before a weak or so about a british -I think ? - reporter who got raped in Libya. Now that video, I prefer to die before watching it again.
I'm sorry too.. But I think if that woman was still alive she would've killed them herself. I think many raped women agree on that, what I think is uncivilized & brutal, is to allow those monsters to live.
Hey AtlaSS. I look at punishments totally different than you. I don't need to see that snuff-movie or get raped to have my own perspective.
Anyway, I was hoping you were going to answer to this question;
By the way, what's the punishment for women that actually are 'whores' or 'bitches'?
The penalty for sex without legal & official contract which indicates that a marriage has been taken place between the subjects, is dealt with by 100 lashes -either the subject is a man or a woman-.
This of course is also a part of what we call sex control, there is no penalty for being a whore, but there is a penalty for having sex without an official contract.
Indeed I would enjoy justifying that
(February 13, 2013 at 3:44 pm)Zone Wrote: In Islamic culture women are really just meant to stay at home and look after the children. Though the same thing applied to Christian European culture up until just over 100 years ago.
Arabic, you mean.
In Islamic culture, men & women are equal, and nobody was asked to stay home.
In arabic culture, women are inferior, and supposed to stay home.
Zone, the Quran gives many stories about brave women who committed heroic acts, some of them defied lords & kings. Some of them traveled east & west just to serve god, some of them were Queens !!
And we are supposed to follow in the footsteps of these women.
You'll find this verse in the Quran ; page 561 verse 10 :
"God gave in example for the believers, the pharaoh's wife, ..."
verse 11 same page :
"and -the example continues- Mary,daughter of Amran -jesus's mother, I'm just kinda lazy to try to translate her father's name-..."
So, for now mister Zone, my example in this life is a woman a lot of men even today feel ashamed from following the footsteps of women.
Muslims,1400 years ago, were taught that they & women are one, and they should follow their footsteps. Stunning.
You also have the story of Balqees, the Queen of Saba. Now that was a woman, a believer & also a queen ! so obviously islam has no problem in women leading men : )
you'll find the story of this splendid girl in page 428
I don't think you're right on these one, Zone. You should read more about the role of women in Islam.
Take a look :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Camel
Quote:Commanders and leaders
Aisha bint Abu-Bakr