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Question about female worth in islam.
RE: Question about female worth in islam.
(November 3, 2013 at 8:32 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:
(November 2, 2013 at 11:46 am)WesOlsen Wrote: Well it's good news indeed that men are obliged to pay all of the women's expenses, like when they go out to buy shoes and makeup and pink furniture, they can at least rest easy knowing that you'll allocate them some spending money (equally presumably between one, two, three of four wives?). And if the shit does hit the fan, at least they can relax knowing that they'll receive their -50% BONUS. Boom, if that isn't fair then I don't know wha.............oh wait.
For you it is just a matter of your opinion that you cannot prove

The islamic system is the most common used system in all worlds; i.e. Hierarchical
do you know any system in management, politics, sports, education, etc. which is not Hierarchical? NO
So what is your backup? you are using circular reference here

Islam is heirarchical, yes, but heirarchy isn't Islam.

Heirarchy does exist in management, politics, sport, education etc, but increasingly in the western world the heirarchy order derives from acquired knowledge and expertise in the given field!

Managers tend to be the most experience in their business and have climbed the heirarchy, athletes have trained over a period of time and have improved their physical performance, a head teacher is often the most experienced and qualified to perform their duties. In almost all cases the person at the top of the heirarchy didn't start at the top (they usually start at the bottom and work towards the top). There are exceptions naturally, and just over a few decades ago this was not the case; people were still restricted in a professional and personal capacity because of involuntary genetic traits i.e gender and ethnicity. People (both within and outside of these grouped categories) said enough is enough, because this is the modern world and people should be given opportunity based on individual merit, not on things which they have no control over (such as skin colour or gender). To discriminate against someone because of the way they were born is morally reprehensible, disgusting.........flat out wrong.

As Dragonetti also mentioned, many of these heirarchies are not cemented or impervious to change. This is because in the west we embace pragmatism and pluralism, that is, a willingness to change and adapt to cater for everyone and everything. In Islam, the heirarchy status can NEVER be altered, you discriminate based on gender because your religion does not permit you to improve or modify your beliefs, because for some reason unknown to rational people, you think your belief system not only came from a god, but also that it can never be improved upon, even though it is in need of SERIOUS improvement.

Islam discriminates on gender, and is morally bankrupt. You are morally bankrupt.
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Question about female worth in islam. - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Rayaan - February 13, 2013 at 12:45 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 1:45 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by CapnAwesome - February 13, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 4:43 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WinterHold - February 13, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 13, 2013 at 10:04 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WinterHold - February 13, 2013 at 10:31 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 10:41 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WinterHold - February 13, 2013 at 12:18 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 13, 2013 at 10:49 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WinterHold - February 13, 2013 at 1:54 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 13, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WinterHold - February 13, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 13, 2013 at 2:19 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 2:12 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 2:17 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 2:18 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 13, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 13, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by paulpablo - February 13, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by frankiej - February 13, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 2:39 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nine - February 13, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by frankiej - February 13, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Chas - July 23, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Minimalist - October 29, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nine - February 13, 2013 at 2:36 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WinterHold - February 13, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 13, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WinterHold - February 14, 2013 at 7:40 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by paulpablo - February 14, 2013 at 8:03 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Zone - February 15, 2013 at 12:54 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WinterHold - February 15, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Zone - February 15, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WinterHold - February 16, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by paulpablo - February 21, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 13, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2013 at 2:52 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by PyroManiac - February 26, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by SiRade - April 10, 2013 at 9:35 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Cato - June 19, 2013 at 3:49 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Rahul - June 19, 2013 at 7:53 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Dragonetti - June 22, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Kim - July 23, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Marvin - October 30, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Chas - October 30, 2013 at 12:28 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 2, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Dragonetti - November 3, 2013 at 8:37 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 3, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Ayen - November 4, 2013 at 5:08 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 4, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Aegrus - November 6, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 6, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Sleepy - November 28, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Foxaèr - November 28, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by The Valkyrie - November 28, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 28, 2013 at 2:56 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 28, 2013 at 3:33 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 28, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Re: Question about female worth in islam. - by NoraBrimstone - November 28, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Foxaèr - November 28, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 28, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Foxaèr - November 28, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 29, 2013 at 4:34 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 29, 2013 at 7:02 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by pocaracas - November 29, 2013 at 7:15 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 29, 2013 at 7:27 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Chas - November 29, 2013 at 10:03 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 29, 2013 at 7:15 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 29, 2013 at 7:41 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 29, 2013 at 7:52 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 29, 2013 at 9:11 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by NoraBrimstone - November 29, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by pocaracas - November 29, 2013 at 9:31 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 29, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 29, 2013 at 10:13 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by NoraBrimstone - November 29, 2013 at 10:23 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 29, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 29, 2013 at 2:18 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by pocaracas - November 30, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by pocaracas - November 29, 2013 at 10:32 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 29, 2013 at 10:53 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 29, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 30, 2013 at 5:16 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by NoraBrimstone - November 30, 2013 at 6:08 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Chas - November 30, 2013 at 7:54 am
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 30, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Chas - November 30, 2013 at 3:07 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Sleepy - November 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Foxaèr - November 30, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Chas - November 30, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Chas - November 30, 2013 at 4:40 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 30, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Foxaèr - November 30, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Foxaèr - November 30, 2013 at 4:22 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 4:31 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by NoraBrimstone - November 30, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Whateverist - November 30, 2013 at 4:31 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 30, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by NoraBrimstone - November 30, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by WesOlsen - November 30, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by pocaracas - November 30, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 7:44 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Chas - November 30, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: Question about female worth in islam. - by Nineteen - November 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm

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