RE: The difference between ethical atheism and nihlism is that ethical atheists have more faith
March 10, 2013 at 10:06 pm
You are getting annoying. If you lack the capacity to understand my arguments, then atleast don't make it so transparent.
There is not absolute way - when did I ever argue for anything absolute? And what we identify as a tree is contained within the space beyond which its constituent cells are not found.
And what is all this blather supposed to signify? Are you high again?
I don't have to prove it - its pretty obvious.
You mean, using your brain?
I don't even know what his epistemology is.
I do consider pride to be a virtue - but I don't consider it to have anything to do with gaining knowledge.
Call what pride?
Ofcourse it isn't. Sorry for even suggesting that. Phenomenology is a complex and detailed field of study - religious belief is not. You can believe whatever you want to, perceive causes where none exist and consider things that go against everything we know to be true - and you do all that on the basis of 'faith'. The only time where phenomenology enters is when you are high and call it a religious experience.
Except, mine is not a skeptical worldview - ask any skeptic around here.
(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: genkaus, prove to me using your methods that there is some absolute way in which a tree can be differentiated from the air that it lives in,
There is not absolute way - when did I ever argue for anything absolute? And what we identify as a tree is contained within the space beyond which its constituent cells are not found.
(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: and that people should accept that concept of a tree as opposed to seeing a tree as being some common unity of things understood through physical and chemical relations and biological order, that a tree based on the way that the unity of biological, and chemical elements has a kind of unity to it that can be described such that a tree has an end that is different from the physical, chemical and biological relations between air and a dead patch of dirt.
And what is all this blather supposed to signify? Are you high again?
(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I think what you will prove is that I am an idiot
I don't have to prove it - its pretty obvious.
(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: because I can't see that your opinion of a tree is different from appreciating what a tree is. In religious circles, that is considered pride,
You mean, using your brain?
(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: but if you accept the epistemology and ethics of someone like Nietzsche
I don't even know what his epistemology is.
(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I suppose you could redefine pride to be a virtue that allows you to have absolute knowledge of a subjective world.
I do consider pride to be a virtue - but I don't consider it to have anything to do with gaining knowledge.
(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I would still call it pride though.
Call what pride?
(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Religious belief is not phenomenological, although experience plays a role in grounding religious belief. It is certainly not limited to that pathetically insufficient method.
Ofcourse it isn't. Sorry for even suggesting that. Phenomenology is a complex and detailed field of study - religious belief is not. You can believe whatever you want to, perceive causes where none exist and consider things that go against everything we know to be true - and you do all that on the basis of 'faith'. The only time where phenomenology enters is when you are high and call it a religious experience.
(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: You are stuck in a skeptical worldview, and the only way to elevate yourself above it is to artificially elevate your opinions. That is what you call "reason" and "evidence".
Except, mine is not a skeptical worldview - ask any skeptic around here.