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The difference between ethical atheism and nihlism is that ethical atheists have more faith
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RE: The difference between ethical atheism and nihlism is that ethical atheists have more faith
You are getting annoying. If you lack the capacity to understand my arguments, then atleast don't make it so transparent.


(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: genkaus, prove to me using your methods that there is some absolute way in which a tree can be differentiated from the air that it lives in,

There is not absolute way - when did I ever argue for anything absolute? And what we identify as a tree is contained within the space beyond which its constituent cells are not found.

(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: and that people should accept that concept of a tree as opposed to seeing a tree as being some common unity of things understood through physical and chemical relations and biological order, that a tree based on the way that the unity of biological, and chemical elements has a kind of unity to it that can be described such that a tree has an end that is different from the physical, chemical and biological relations between air and a dead patch of dirt.

And what is all this blather supposed to signify? Are you high again?

(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I think what you will prove is that I am an idiot

I don't have to prove it - its pretty obvious.

(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: because I can't see that your opinion of a tree is different from appreciating what a tree is. In religious circles, that is considered pride,

You mean, using your brain?

(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: but if you accept the epistemology and ethics of someone like Nietzsche

I don't even know what his epistemology is.

(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I suppose you could redefine pride to be a virtue that allows you to have absolute knowledge of a subjective world.

I do consider pride to be a virtue - but I don't consider it to have anything to do with gaining knowledge.


(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I would still call it pride though.

Call what pride?

(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Religious belief is not phenomenological, although experience plays a role in grounding religious belief. It is certainly not limited to that pathetically insufficient method.

Ofcourse it isn't. Sorry for even suggesting that. Phenomenology is a complex and detailed field of study - religious belief is not. You can believe whatever you want to, perceive causes where none exist and consider things that go against everything we know to be true - and you do all that on the basis of 'faith'. The only time where phenomenology enters is when you are high and call it a religious experience.

(March 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: You are stuck in a skeptical worldview, and the only way to elevate yourself above it is to artificially elevate your opinions. That is what you call "reason" and "evidence".

Except, mine is not a skeptical worldview - ask any skeptic around here.
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RE: The difference between ethical atheism and nihlism is that ethical atheists have more faith - by genkaus - March 10, 2013 at 10:06 pm

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