(March 26, 2013 at 3:48 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote:Quote:Not quite - "according to atheists" there isn't any phenomena or event that requires an invisible, magic creator which can only be defined as a "god".
And this is because they have naturalistic explanations and models that account for the existence of the universe and life?
No, because the burden of proof is on the person proposing the existence of the entity extra to the "naturalistic explanations" that already account for observed reality.
(March 26, 2013 at 3:48 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: Please put this debate to bed once and for all and tell me about these verified theories.
What debate would this be, then? Because I can promise you I haven't mentioned any such thing. Presumably this is another of those extraneous entities thirsting for justification.
(March 26, 2013 at 3:48 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote:Quote:Or more accurately, the creator that is usually proposed has still, after all these centuries, to be even demonstrated as something that exists in reality.
I agree, the existence of a Creator is an opinion. I am making a cogent case from facts that support that belief.
You're attempting a case, to be sure, but cogency is for the audience to decide.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'