(April 19, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(April 19, 2014 at 7:39 pm)snowtracks Wrote: seriously, the point is biochemical information is genuine information not merely a scientific metaphor.
Damn, you're slow on the uptake. If you think that information exists as a non-conceptual thing that doesn't rely on minds to process it and determine the patterns in it, then please show us a unit of information? What is the measurement metric for information? How does one detect information? What does information do? How does it affect things?
your guy doesn't propound the mindless universe because it's against common sense. there was a reason we weren't listen to all stern lectures.
"Nagel rejects both reductionistic and emergent physical
explanations for consciousness, stating that [consciousness is the
most conspicuous obstacle to a comprehensive naturalism that relies
only on the resources of physical science.]" http://wilmiers777.com/2013/05/23/explai...he-cosmos/
Atheist Credo: An universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.