RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 8, 2013 at 6:48 pm
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2013 at 6:49 pm by Duck.)
(December 8, 2013 at 6:39 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote:(December 8, 2013 at 6:14 pm)Duck Wrote: 1) My argument is nothing like the no marital rape one. I even said that earlier if you bothered to read it. I thought you were a reasonable person but apparently not. You give consent by giving consent for sex.1) Yes it is like the marital rape one. You're suggesting that I'm consenting to more than I am actually consenting to when I have sex. Consenting to sex is not consenting to having a child, it's just consenting to sex. Abortion is there for when fuck ups happen along the way, be it a contraceptive fuck up, or you got drunk/high and made a stupid decision to take a risk.
2) Why should you be allowed to kill it? You can be cut open and have it removed intact, but you cannot just kill it.
2) Because it's my body and I don't want it there. I don't want to be cut open. And yes, I can just kill it actually.
Sorry, getting high and making a shit decision is a good excuse to kill a viable human being?
Yes it is your body. You can elect to have the fetus removed. But once it is viable and can live without your help, you cannot choose to kill it in the process. You can withdraw your consent, and have it removed in tact and alive.
You are responsible for your actions. You know having sex can get you pregnant. Being a complete moron isn't a good excuse. Using that as a reason for killing another human being is frankly absurd.
Luckily, you can't kill it. Once it is viable you will be sent to jail for infanticide if you do so.
(December 8, 2013 at 6:47 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I might get pregnant just to send you the aborted foetus in the mail....
What do you believe is so special about a foetus that justifies a woman losing her basic rights?
Luckily I don't give my address to twisted drunk junkies.
Once a fetus is viable and no longer needs the mother it gets rights. Simple.