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Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
Godschild Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:That nonbelievers don't help people is a fantasy adhered to by certain theists who can't deal with the fact that they don't have a monopoly on compassion, generosity, or kindness. They like to point to things they can accomplish because of their overwhelming numbers, and overlook how much more they could do. There are more churches than homeless people in America, if each of them tried to help one homeless person get off the street, there would still be about 100,000 churches left without any homeless person to help. Many of them complain about government welfare when they have the numbers to make it unnecessary if they really wanted to end poverty in America as we know it.  

Atheists are about 2% of the population in America, they could be twice as generous as Christians without having a tenth of their impact. I only wish Christians were as much better than us as they like to think they are.

We do not see ourselves as better in helping people, we help because we care and we do not even consider what others do or do not do, we're to busy doing all the work it take to run such massive operations. In my city 90% of the homeless are feed by Christian organisations and it would be closer to 100% if they would come and take advantage of the gift. Like Christ freely gave of Himself we try and do like wise and give freely of ourselves and the blessings we receive from God. We also attend to the poor within our Christian churches, we can't neglect them now can we. A great deal of those churches you speak of are constantly trying to keep the doors open financially, it benefits the members and those who need the help we can provide, I know this because I belong to one that struggles every year. The Christian churches can't help everyone here and then help those in other countries who receive little to no help from their own countries. There are safe guards set up by the government here to help the homeless, yet the church has to take a huge roll to help these people, why, on our part it's because we care, as for the government and many people in this country selfishness gets in the way of caring, so just remember this we give freely to help others, there is no requirement for us to do so other than to be Christ like. Please read my reply to Valkyrie.

GC

The post to which I was replying gives the lie to this statement. If you didn't consider what others do or don't do, we wouldn't even be having this conversation, and you go on to do more bragging about all the wonderful things Christians do in your next breath, while excusing them from doing more in the breath following.

It's a good thing Christians don't see themselves as better at helping people. It's a claim non-Christians would reasonably expect them to live up to. Too bad the same can't be said about you, personally.

There is no requirement for Christians to give freely to help others, other than the requirement for Christians to give freely to help others. Gotcha.
Rolleyes
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by c172 - December 13, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Minimalist - December 13, 2013 at 12:17 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Ksa - December 13, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Ryantology - December 13, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Minimalist - December 13, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ronedee - December 13, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Angrboda - December 13, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ThomM - December 17, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ronedee - December 13, 2013 at 12:46 pm
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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ronedee - December 13, 2013 at 2:14 pm
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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ronedee - December 13, 2013 at 2:19 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Esquilax - December 13, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ronedee - December 13, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Esquilax - December 13, 2013 at 2:35 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ronedee - December 13, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ronedee - December 13, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ronedee - December 13, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ronedee - December 13, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by ronedee - December 13, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Godschild - December 13, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Esquilax - December 13, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Godschild - December 13, 2013 at 9:44 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Godschild - December 14, 2013 at 10:20 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Tiberius - December 14, 2013 at 10:57 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by EgoRaptor - December 14, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Godschild - December 14, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by EgoRaptor - December 14, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Godschild - December 16, 2013 at 3:35 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Angrboda - December 16, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Angrboda - December 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Bob Kelso - December 13, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Angrboda - December 13, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Esquilax - December 13, 2013 at 2:00 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Cinjin - December 15, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Minimalist - December 13, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Esquilax - December 13, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Cato - December 13, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by EgoRaptor - December 13, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by EgoRaptor - December 13, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by EgoRaptor - December 13, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Tonus - December 19, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Esquilax - December 27, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by EgoRaptor - December 13, 2013 at 9:59 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Bob Kelso - December 13, 2013 at 10:27 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Ryantology - December 13, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Esquilax - December 13, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Angrboda - December 13, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Tiberius - December 14, 2013 at 9:09 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Angrboda - December 14, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Angrboda - December 14, 2013 at 11:49 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Tiberius - December 14, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Polaris - December 14, 2013 at 9:56 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by EgoRaptor - December 14, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Ryantology - December 14, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Bob Kelso - December 14, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Angrboda - December 14, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Bob Kelso - December 14, 2013 at 10:34 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Polaris - December 14, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Bob Kelso - December 14, 2013 at 10:52 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Esquilax - December 15, 2013 at 2:17 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Esquilax - December 15, 2013 at 2:28 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Angrboda - December 15, 2013 at 7:39 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Minimalist - December 22, 2013 at 12:37 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Polaris - December 26, 2013 at 8:55 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Polaris - December 15, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Ryantology - December 14, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Polaris - December 16, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by rexbeccarox - December 16, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Polaris - December 16, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by rexbeccarox - December 16, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Polaris - December 16, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by rexbeccarox - December 16, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Polaris - December 17, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Polaris - December 19, 2013 at 10:10 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Cinjin - December 17, 2013 at 1:48 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Esquilax - December 17, 2013 at 5:25 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Duck - December 17, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Duck - December 17, 2013 at 4:52 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Ryantology - December 17, 2013 at 10:34 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by EgoRaptor - December 18, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Polaris - December 21, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by c172 - December 8, 2014 at 5:11 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Foxaèr - December 8, 2014 at 10:44 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Chas - December 12, 2014 at 12:12 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Foxaèr - December 16, 2014 at 3:02 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Joods - March 20, 2016 at 12:52 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Joods - March 22, 2016 at 4:08 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by IATIA - March 17, 2016 at 1:05 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Joods - March 24, 2016 at 2:40 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Joods - March 25, 2016 at 3:13 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Mister Agenda - March 18, 2016 at 11:37 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by IATIA - July 21, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by IATIA - March 15, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by IATIA - March 15, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by c172 - March 17, 2016 at 8:36 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Joods - March 17, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Joods - March 19, 2016 at 7:08 am
RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down - by Joods - March 22, 2016 at 4:38 pm

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