Debate with a Christian

[*Deidre*]

At one point, we were taught math basics in school, yes? 2+2 equaling 4 is an objective, absolute truth. All things being equal.

When you can prove something, it is known as fact. Or truth. Or reality.

When you can't prove something, you only have your opinions to serve you. If we all went on living life with just opinions to guide us, a lot of innocent people would be incarcerated, using one example. Our justice system requires proof or evidence to acquit or convict.
Right?

Faith/religion doesn't require proof, and how convenient, it has none! lol

And by proof, I mean absolute truth based on evidence.

This doesn't mean you can't choose to believe in a god, but you have to be sure to not lie to yourself as to why you believe in the first place.

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You know it's four, you don't believe it is.

You believe in God, but you can't know with certainty that he exists.

That's my point.

I'll debate you, when the thread's ready.

Excellent point. I joyfully agree. I do not know with certainty that God exists. I do not know with certainty that anyone exists in fact, except maybe myself, and even then, some philosophers would take exception to this.

It seems to me you equate knowledge with certainty. Allow me to ask a question:

Do you think someone has to be certain that some proposition P is true in order for them to know P?

Wait a minute. This debate is over. You admit ... you don't know God exists with certainty.

Game over?