(November 6, 2008 at 7:59 pm)Daystar Wrote:My good friend Daystar, we recently agreed ( to my chagrin ) over our being here......now then I agree again with you that nobody knows how we are here.(November 6, 2008 at 6:12 pm)Jason Jarred Wrote: What???
So far your posts have seemed somewhat intelligent and well thought through, please tell me you are *not* serious. You think that because science cannot answer something, then the religious option becomes any more viable? Even if you disproved every single scientific theory, it does *nothing* for religion. You have to prove your points on their own merit.
Disproving evolution or abiogenesis no more proves your God than it does the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Well I, uh ... say ... that FSM is pretty big with you guys, isn't it.
I have spent a considerable amount of time trying to get the posters here to teach me where there might be a conflict with science and the Bible and I have has surprisingly little information. I am glad that what I say about the Bible is being taken as seriously as an atheist could be asked to take it but I need more information. Evidence as EvF would say.
Here is what my uneducated view of science would prescribe.
No one can claim they know how we got here. Not evolutionist nor creationist. No one was there and no one can prove it either way. There are only two versions that I am aware of other than creation. Only two scientific possibilities. Both from the movie Expelled. Before you criticise those by simply dismissing them, tell me how we got here.
Science says that either aliens put us here or life started by riding on the backs of crystals. Educate me.
When I asked the science minded atheists here where the Bible and science disagree I was given simply "the origin of species" as evidence and the minor disagreement of when birds and reptiles appeared.
I don't know much about the origin of species and the case of the birds and reptiles science can't really prove.
That is the way I see it.
Let me offer a theory, it isn't mine, I'm not so clever, nor do I claim it the answer.
What if what there is, has always been?
No creator, no big bang.
To my mind, that is equal to either option.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?