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Some great news for a change!
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RE: Some great news for a change!
(January 7, 2015 at 5:26 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(January 7, 2015 at 5:20 pm)abaris Wrote: They claim to write for the sceptics, but all they can do is provide crutches for the ones actually believing. I've yet to find any apologist who's not outright ridiculous in his arguments.

They really ought to start calling them justificationists.

Very true.

I have never met a theist that became a believer because of the cosmological argument, teleological argument, TAG, ontological argument, etc.

They only use them to justify their already existing unjustified beliefs.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Some great news for a change! - by Simon Moon - January 7, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by Nope - January 7, 2015 at 5:17 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by abaris - January 7, 2015 at 5:20 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by Faith No More - January 7, 2015 at 5:26 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by Simon Moon - January 7, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by dyresand - January 7, 2015 at 5:23 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by Minimalist - January 7, 2015 at 5:59 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by Landfish - January 7, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by dyresand - January 7, 2015 at 6:14 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by Simon Moon - January 7, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by dyresand - January 7, 2015 at 7:27 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by abaris - January 7, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by dyresand - January 7, 2015 at 7:35 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by KevinM1 - January 7, 2015 at 7:41 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by dyresand - January 7, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by KevinM1 - January 7, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by abaris - January 7, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by KevinM1 - January 7, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by abaris - January 7, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by abaris - January 7, 2015 at 7:47 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by Spooky - January 7, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: Some great news for a change! - by Minimalist - January 7, 2015 at 9:51 pm

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