RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 3, 2015 at 11:39 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2015 at 11:52 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(March 3, 2015 at 11:04 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: There is no point that a supernatural explanation becomes a more reasonable explanation for any example of a thing that either one of us cannot comprehend or personally explain. Arguing from ignorance keeps you ignorant. I said that your old book did not hold the answers to the origins of the universe. You then thought that you were right about your conclusion if you could get me to admit that people of an older generation were capable of doing something that I didn't understand, well...you've mistaken. That is not what was demonstrated and the reason I didn't answer your "question" was because it seemed stupid. So...there ya go. I hope it was worth the wait.My point was that Ancient people possessed knowledge that we currently do not have (as evidenced by the pyramids etc.), they weren't dummies.
Would you at least agree to that?
(March 3, 2015 at 11:05 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Additionally, I'm still waiting on an explanation of how you know your interpretation of the bible is the correct one that doesn't rely on you pointing to your interpretation of the bible some more. You whine about other people not answering your questions, but that one's still hanging.And I answered you. The Bible is it's own interpreter.
When you rely on man to interpret what he thinks the Bible says, you tend to end up with a new denomination.
Quote:2 Peter 1:20I'll address your earlier statement.
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
(March 2, 2015 at 10:16 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Actually, I kinda do need to act like that, because in your book when the bible says "day" it can mean some other length of time, but only when you seem to want it to.
Quote:Psalm 90:4
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
Quote:2 Peter 3:8You know time is relative, so why are you surprised that God (who is eternal) measures time differently?
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Quote:Genesis 2
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Quote:Genesis 5I can't explain it any simpler.
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
(March 3, 2015 at 11:25 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(March 3, 2015 at 11:21 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: How does my answer not directly address that question? Are you so obtuse that to you, a direct response to the question, not phrased in your false yes/no dichotomy, is not an answer? I refuse to believe that you are that dumb. But you are making it really fucking hard to hang on to that.
Literally "Are you saying this?" followed by "I am not saying this."
He doesn't want details or qualifiers, or a nuanced answer. What he wants is a simple Y/N that he can shunt into one of the two dishonest strawmen he had constructed before he asked the question. He just wants your help in constructing the strawman beforehand, but I see no reason for any of us to play into this legalistic nonsense.
I just gave examples of you guys doing the exact same thing to me, yet I have no problems giving the Yes or no answer.
You guys can ask Y/N questions, but can't answer them yourselves.
Pretty hypocritical, no?