RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith"
March 26, 2015 at 9:39 pm
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2015 at 9:40 pm by Drich.)
(March 25, 2015 at 8:17 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote: Here is a post from Parkers Tan:
[quote='Parkers Tan' pid='907114' dateline='1427303952']
I don't have faith in science. Science demonstrates its utility with its discoveries and inventions. Faith is not an apt descriptor for my attitude, thanks.
Quote:Probably most people share his sentiments, so I don't question the fact that "faith" is a poor word choice. I should have said "confidence" or "trust" maybe?i do not want to call anyone out so I will encrypt the person's idenity I am speaking of, and just refer to this person as P-tan or ptan. P-tan can be a lot full of himself, most of the time. His biggest problem (besides having to take the max dosage of Viagra allowed to unlimp his biscuit) is that he like most self absorbed people like to comparmentalize people and or words so he can make quick unthinking judgements when ever a person fits a key word or phrase. For instance the world knows this behavior as bigotry, or when applied to a race, racism. However rather than be honest with himself, p-tan classifies these behaviors as being really really bad, and simply because he does not want to be classified or even associated with those words p-tan will deny being a bigot even if you water boarded him. Why? His self absorbion runs deep. It is who he has become. It is apart of his flawed nature and character...
Now is Parkerstan like ptan? Idk..
But I would be willing to bet that despite exhibiting behaviors that would and can be classified as faith by an honest person Parkerstan simple does not want to be associated with that word...
A test would be to simply use a thesaurus and find a fancy word with the same meaning and see if he will swallow the hook.
Quote:My question is: what do Christians mean by the attribute "faith" if they don't mean "confidence"? When I was a Christian, I always thought "faith" meant "confidence". My confidence in Christianity was not fundamentally different from my confidence in newspapers, text books, etc. Everybody I knew was either a Christian or kept their skepticism private, so I had confidence in Christianity.If you want the stock answer Hebrews 11 defines faith for the Christian.
If you want the drich one word defination. faith = Trust.
All Jesus said we must have is Faith of a Mustard Seed. meaning all We Need is the Smallest Amount of Trust, and Place it in Him (as he says do not as we do..do.) and he will provide the proof we need to establish and maintain a eternal relationship.
Because like the mustard seed, your 'faith' will blossom into something very real.
This is exactly what happened to me.
Quote:IMO the only significant difference between Christian "faith" and plain "faith" is that Christianity is difficult or impossible to falsify. "Faith" in something that cannot be falsified is not the same as "faith" in something that can be falsified.dont believe the propaganda. christianity is falsifiable. Just not on your terms.
Quote:Any opinions? I'm especially curious if Christians agree that "faith" means "confidence" and that "confidence" must have a cause - whether the cause is seeing Moses split the Red Sea or simply being indoctrinated as a child.Do you know what Jesus said to doubting Thomas after Thomas demanded 'proof?'
What makes you think Thomas' answer could not apply to you?