(March 27, 2015 at 1:06 pm)Mezmo! Wrote:(March 27, 2015 at 12:33 pm)Esquilax Wrote: ...Drich's method, and yours too, apparently, requires a presupposition of the existence of the being in question,...Again, Duh! Why would God answer the call of anyone that 1) doesn't recognize His authority and 2) expects God to change His position on sodomy before accepting Grace.
Um, because Drich pointed to that exact test as a way to prove that god exists? Seems like you've got a problem with the way Drich is phrasing this, not my objections to it.
Quote:Seems to me that you are making excuses for why you shouldn't have to engage in a sincere effort.
Engaging in the kind of effort you want me to undermines the whole point of the exercise Drich was proposing. Do you seriously think that a test to demonstrate god's existence, that requires one to already believe god exists and buy into the entire religion, is at all a cogent proposition? That's idiotic.
But here, let me propose a test that'll prove any other religious position to you: just believe in the proposition in question, and then pray until either you get the response befitting your new beliefs, or you die! You'll be converted easily!
What's that, you don't want to start believing completely in another religion, in order to demonstrate why you should believe in that religion? You're just making excuses, sinner!
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