(November 25, 2008 at 10:56 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Sounds like intuition to me. It was based on past experiences of past evidence. Not faith.
If by intuition you mean knowledge without conscious reasoning I don't think that that would apply. What I meant by faith is that I had faith in my knowledge through past experiences and reasoned that that was the most probabal outcome.
(November 25, 2008 at 10:56 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Besides IF A person of faith makes up some idea that ISN'T supernatural but there is NO evidence of it and ends up being write. Could just be a complete fluke. There wasn't evidence but then once it was proved then you realize of course there WAS evidence before. It just hadn't been proved yet.
Could have been a fluke, could have been right or wrong. It was a probability. When I study the Bible I have faith in that it will always prove to be right because it always has in the past. Do I have evidence that it will in any particular occurance? Not until it turns out to be right in that particular occurance but the faith comes from that it always has in the past.
(November 25, 2008 at 10:56 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: The thing about faith is its holding beliefs that you have no evidence of and standing by them despite the fact that your 'faith' never works. All the times it apparently 'works' aren't related to the faith at all. They're related to evidence and science. Its just the religious person likes to think its part of faith when it isn't.
Religious people tend to put faith in things that have nothing to do with God or the Bible. They have have faith that God will help them get through some life threatening crisis or even help them win a football game and God has nothing to do with that. That isn't faith, that is ignorance.
(November 25, 2008 at 10:56 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: For example on 'God TV' they always go on and on about two things: the the existence and truth of God. And good morals.
But they act like its connected and one thing! The existence of the supernatural is an entirely different issue to morality. Whether God exists or not that's got nothing to do with if you're a good person.
That is just ignorance. I agree with you there. I would advise not to watch God TV.