(June 28, 2015 at 12:32 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Additionally, your reply completely ignores my point that Christians have yourself changed the definitions of marriage. Answering in regards to American jurisprudence is dodging my question, so I will ask it again: Given that you Christians have changed the definition of marriage over the centuries, what is the basis of your complaint that this ruling changes the definition of marriage, if it's not a defense of the bigotry?
I'm reminded of those who complain that gay people changed the meaning of the word 'gay' to mean homosexual ('hijacked a perfectly good word'), yet never have any problem using the word 'queer' to mean homosexual, changing its original meaning from 'peculiar'. Difference? Presumably it's fine to change the meaning of a word to homosexual if the change comes from straight people and is pejorative. But if the meaning was changed by gay people and is NOT pejorative, it's a shame about the original meaning getting lost.
This quibbling over the word 'marriage' looks like the same phenomenon. They say they don't want a word's definition changed, but their acceptance of other definition changes betrays the fact that what they ACTUALLY don't want is a word changed *in a way that destigmatises gays and bisexuals*
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