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The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
(September 25, 2015 at 3:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'd also like to say that not all those in power do these things, lol. It's not like everyone in the Vatican took wrong actions. The handful of those who did are guilty, but it's not like everyone was in on it. I'm sure that's what you meant, King, but wanted to specify for the others.  Shy  

I agree with this post 100%. Thanks for explaining it when I was not of the right temperament to do so.

This is why people get upset when trying to have a conversation with you, C_L. You get stuck on these ideas like "not everyone was in the wrong." That is clear, and a given. No one is saying that every single person is culpable. What we are saying is that the Church as an organization is still hiding assets, obfuscating and shuffling perpetrators, and not compensating victims. Again, not every priest is a molester, but there are still people that have molested children who are active priests. There are still Churches whom the Vatican allows to claim insolvency rather than pay victims of child rape; all the while there are items in the Vatican vault whose value lies in the hundreds of millions.

Could you please respond to PT's or my statements earlier?

It seems, from my end, that you are either incapable or simply unwilling of seeing fault in the hierarchical organization as a whole---not individual priests or parishes.
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The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica - by Minimalist - September 24, 2015 at 12:31 pm
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