(December 24, 2015 at 4:32 am)Delicate Wrote:(December 24, 2015 at 2:09 am)Jenny A Wrote: You continually miss the fact that a logical argument is only as good as the factual premises on which it is based.
If all men are immortal, and Socrates is a man, then Socrates is immortal. Garbage in, garbage out. As long as your premises remain unproven, any argument dependant upon them is just so much nonsense.
That's asserted but not demonstrated.
For all their bravado atheists here never get off the ground with demonstrating the truth of their claims. I'd love to see that change.
Your missed the point. I don't believe Socrates is immortal. I gave you an example of an arguement which is invalid because its premese is unsubstantiated. No reliance can be placed on the conclusion regardless of the logical soundness of any argument that folows there from. In my example the logic is sound, but the premise is not.
Similarly, in your arguments for god you often begin with faulty premise.
Surely, you can't be as obtuse as you pretend. Your are either responding without thinking or trolling.
As to demonstrating that there is no god, I don't pretend to do that. It is an undemonstrable claim if God is defined so as to be unfalsafible. What I can do is repeat that there is no credible evidenice for a god. Providing credible evidence of god is the theists job, not that of atheists.
If you really don't get this, try to disprove the existence of unicorns. Is the fact you can't proof of unicorns? It is not. The same is true of any god claim.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
