(February 24, 2016 at 2:39 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(February 24, 2016 at 10:22 am)Drich Wrote: what you don't seem to get is russia and china combined do not need the permission of the US or anyone else to pull off anything they want to do. China especially because the US is not the world power it was in the 1950s or even 1990s. China holds the keys to the US.
The countries that have adopted communism in it's present form do so because it works the way they want it to work, and these countries have the power and authority to maintain that working model. Blame the US all you want for your failed hero's junkie ideology, but know it is not the US who maintains communism in it's present form. It's present form is the natural progression of communism/It's natural evolutionary form when the power of a nation is filter though a very small ruling class.
What has happened in russia and China will inevitable be what will happen each and in every instance communism is tried. History has proven this statement for more than 100 years without even 1 successful working model of marxist communism according to your own admission. Again blame the west if you wish, but know the world does not operate in a vacuum where the politics of other countries does not effect your own. Therefore if Marxist Communism can not survive outside the bubble or vacuum of theory, then it will never be viable for any use other than toilet paper.
The bolded part was exactly my point. A true communist country has never been allowed to flower because the US sees communism as a threat and drove burgeoning communist countries into the arms of the soviets by default.
I know what you point was that is why I included in my post. Now if I could only get you to read the last sentence.