Being a sinner just for being born

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Yeah. The second just sounds like a way of trying to justify an obviously fucked up idea. The same guy punishes me for the same thing, which has nothing to do with me. Fuck that. You can't sweeten that pill. It's more mafia boss stuff. "Your great grandfather did a bad thing, he stole from us, and the debt has not been repaid. Now it's your knee caps on the line. It's not my fault, it's how my mafia organisation which I started and made the rules for works."

If we inherit sin, that's how God designed it. So he can't wash his hands of the deal. And we end up getting punished (or at least treated less well) if we don't accept vicarious redemption. Well, I don't accept it. It's immoral as well as insane. "I hit myself on the foot with a shovel for your mortgage." I forget which comic said that.

No one gets to tell me how sin does and doesn't work anyway, since it's not been demonstrated to be anything other than imaginary. If we're just talking about people's personal fantasy land in their head, it can work however they want.