(November 22, 2016 at 11:21 am)Tonus Wrote:(November 22, 2016 at 10:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) You came at the conclusion that ..........people suffer unnecessarily............On the contrary, your 'evidence' that suffering is necessary is based on ideas and reasoning that are stupid.
There is no evidence that that is the case.
Quote:You do not know what these people did in previous lives therefore you should not come to such a conclusion.Where is your evidence that (1)they lived previous lives and (2)that they did things in a previous life that went unpunished until their next life?
Where is your evidence that people suffer unnecessary?
And when you're done with whatever bizarre justifications and insane explanations you call "evidence" we can discuss the stupidity of a system that perpetuates evil by not punishing it until the "next life" which requires that someone makes that person suffer and which then causes the person who delivers justice to be punished... possibly in a future life. Say it with me, Rik... STUPID.
Quote:If there would not be suffering there also would not be the karmaSo the universe is better off without karma. Got it.
Quote:and without karma there would not be any justice so your logic does not take in consideration the karma law but karma is there as confirmed by so many NDEs experiences.NDEs do not confirm anything about karma. That honestly doesn't even make sense. I'm going to ask you to explain it for the sheer entertainment value of seeing just how far down the rabbit hole your imagination can go. Come on, Rik... dazzle me.
Quote:Ton I just hope that you do not believe in science because also science tell us that every action require and equal and opposite reaction.Across multiple existences? Do you even understand how Newton's Third Law works? Please, in the interests of watching you come up with even MORE insanity, I beg you to explain how Newton's Third Law supports the notion of karmic justice. Just give me a moment to grab the world's biggest tub of popcorn, first.
Quote:You never thought of that Ton, did you?Of course not. I'm not batshit insane.
1) Without suffering people will keep on doing the same mistakes.
Have you ever been booked for speeding?
Have you gone slow after that or those booking?
Got it Ton?
2) NDEs are clear evidence that there is Karma.
Read those experiences to understand how the system works.
3) In one life time in most cases there is not enough time to experience all karma.
Take those who torture, kill or did a lot of crimes that affect a lot of people.
Some people need to be reborn again and again to pay their debt.
In one life they could not possibly pay all their debts.
4) The universe could not exist without positive and negative.
Everything get recycled time and time again.
Stars die but their energy give life to new life in the universe.
Nothing really die.
One type of energy get transformed into a different type of energy.
The balance between the positive and negative make sure that this transformation keep everything alive and well.
The karma also follow the law of positive and negative in order to keep the balance.
Most people stop doing the same mistakes BECAUSE they suffer as they went through punishment.
If there wouldn't be punishment and suffering people would keep on doing the same mistakes which ultimately would
lead to human race annihilation.