RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 7, 2016 at 7:05 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2016 at 7:06 pm by AceBoogie.)
This is hilarious to me because your argument, Mario, is almost as old as religion itself (well maybe not QUITE that old, but pretty fucking old). People have been arguing this first cause idea for centuries.
Mario, what you're doing is creating your own little bubble where you create the facts, concepts and ideas. Now this is fine if you're trying to, in your own mind, make sense of the idea of god and how that idea could, in some way, correlate with reality. But if you're going to propose an argument to other people you actually have to operate within the confines of REALITY.
The problem with you trying to get us to agree with your definition of god, IN CONCEPT OF COURSE, is that you can do that with anything, really. A concept merely existing means nothing.
We COULD say:
1. Unicorns, in concept, are the first and foremost creators of the universe, man and everything with a beginning.
2. Look for instances of causation in reality, outside of concepts in our mind.
3. We find many instances of causation in reality.
4. We must then infer to the first and ultimate cause.
5. We realize that the first and ultimate cause is in correlation with our concept of Unicorns (HOW CONVENIENT!)
6. Unicorns are the first and ultimate cause of all that exists.
So yea, in this little world of mine I've created, unicorns are the creators of the universe. The problem is, NO ONE ELSE thinks this about unicorns, because unicorns don't fucking exist. I'm not sure if you realize how stupid you sound or if you're now just trying to hang on to the last, dangling thread in order to save face because everyone has exposed your stupidity.
Mario, what you're doing is creating your own little bubble where you create the facts, concepts and ideas. Now this is fine if you're trying to, in your own mind, make sense of the idea of god and how that idea could, in some way, correlate with reality. But if you're going to propose an argument to other people you actually have to operate within the confines of REALITY.
The problem with you trying to get us to agree with your definition of god, IN CONCEPT OF COURSE, is that you can do that with anything, really. A concept merely existing means nothing.
We COULD say:
1. Unicorns, in concept, are the first and foremost creators of the universe, man and everything with a beginning.
2. Look for instances of causation in reality, outside of concepts in our mind.
3. We find many instances of causation in reality.
4. We must then infer to the first and ultimate cause.
5. We realize that the first and ultimate cause is in correlation with our concept of Unicorns (HOW CONVENIENT!)
6. Unicorns are the first and ultimate cause of all that exists.
So yea, in this little world of mine I've created, unicorns are the creators of the universe. The problem is, NO ONE ELSE thinks this about unicorns, because unicorns don't fucking exist. I'm not sure if you realize how stupid you sound or if you're now just trying to hang on to the last, dangling thread in order to save face because everyone has exposed your stupidity.
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
