(November 8, 2016 at 4:33 am)Jesster Wrote:(November 8, 2016 at 4:27 am)TheHuxleyAgnostic Wrote: I haven't created a false dichotomy. I presented 3 possible options, when there are 3 possible options. Presenting only 2 options, when there are actually 3 options, is a false dichotomy.
Objectively, the corner store is either open or closed. I can believe either, or I can have no idea, and have no belief, either way.
Objectively, I'm either drinking a Coke, or I'm not. You can believe either, or, since you have no clue, you can have no belief, either way.
There are no rules on questions and at what point to label. You're just choosing to only offer two options, before labelling.
Ok, last post to clear up what I meant. Then all you get from me is eye rolls as I lose interest.
Believing X to be true and not accepting the belief that X is true (disbelief) are opposite ends of one scale. You are one or the other. This is like theism vs atheism.
Believing X to be false and not believing the belief that X is false (disbelief) are opposite ends on an entirely different scale. You are one or the other.This an entirely different question.
Disbelief = having no belief
(November 8, 2016 at 4:27 am)TheHuxleyAgnostic Wrote: Yes, I'm sure it's much easier to just assert that people of a certain time put the word together a certain way, without any evidence to the contrary.
It's not an entirely different question. Objectively, the answer is P or ~P, existence or non-existence, open or closed, true or false, odd or even, ...
You're just dictating things the way you want, to get the result you want. Do gods exist? What are your beliefs regarding gods? Those questions allow multiple answers. I could present it as a multiple choice, like a survey. I could chose to ask two questions, before labelling. You're just pretending there's only one question and one way to label people.
Like I said, do whatever you like, I'm just not a fan. I'm not sure if you're trying to persuade me into being a fan, but it's not working. I still think it's illogical to pretend B and C are the same thing, based on a single question, when B also shares a commonality with A. I still think only presenting a single question, with only 2 options is a false dichotomy. I still think you have no real idea about the history of the words. I still think the other way is more popular, and common usage does mean something with words.
