Atheism is irrational.

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Why not open a thread defending the 5 Ways and let us do our best to refute them?

I'm offering this merely so you have a better understanding of the 5 Ways. If you have any particular objection,  feel free to make them, but just so you know I won't have much time to reply given the up-coming USA holiday. Besides, I'm rather tired of defending the 5W on AF because there are so many misunderstandings about them. The typical objections, like special pleading, only come from those who don't understand the 5W. For quite some time I have been willing to explain the 5W as clearly as possible. I did so only to put my understanding to the test and am satisfied that they stand-up to close scrutiny. YMMV

Official Debate

The above said, I would note that the most compelling arguments IMHO against the 5W came from Hume and Kant. These have some merit  but I personally feel they devolve into paradox. These are rarely if ever presented as refutations by AF members. I don't know why and I don't feel like speculating.

You "won" the debate on a technicality. Just because Metis plagarised someone elses words to refute the five ways doesn't make them any less refuted. You failed to suppoert, much less prove, your assertion in that debate.

And the fact that you point to that debate as an example of the five ways being validated speaks a lot about your mendacity and lack of moral character.