(January 12, 2017 at 10:24 am)Yadayadayada Wrote: So, what EXACTLY would you need to see to be able to say, "Wow yes, there is a God..." What do you consider evidence?
GOD.
I mean, we're talking about a being that created everything that exists, is more powerful and awe-inspiring than we can even imagine and capable of anything he sets his mind to. According to your holy book, he manifested himself in the distant past and performed supernatural feats that left witnesses stunned and delivered pronouncements that blew their minds. He coyly offered the secrets to life, the universe, and everything to those who took the proper steps in the proper order and an eternity in a world as impressive as he was. The message he delivered is of utmost importance to every person living ever since he walked the Earth.
...and he refuses to show up.
Get him to show up, and you wouldn't have to ask what we consider evidence. It's obviously not something outside of his ability. And no, don't point to a funny-shaped cloud and claim it's a sign. And no, pointing at the church that was left standing when a tornado reduced everything else to rubble doesn't count. And no, the fact that a baseball player hit a home run in a clutch situation and thanked god afterward doesn't count either. Get him to show up. It's not too much to ask.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
