Tooth Fairy Bullshit

[Huggy Bear]

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You responded to me AND Balco in the same post, I'm only referring to your response to me.

What the hell are you smoking?  I posted a quote FROM Balaco, I didn't respond TO Balaco.  That was all for you, buddy.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-47154-po...pid1488822

Belief and faith are synonymous, there is no difference...

That is absolutely not true.  In fact, most Christians don't even believe that.  I can't tell you how many times a Christian has told me that God couldn't prove himself because then we would have to believe and faith wouldn't be necessary.  In fact, that came up in a conversation I had rather recently here:

I had a similar experience with a similar outcome.  I finally came to the conclusion that the idea of an all-loving god who loved me more than I was even capable of loving would not lay down one right path, allow Satan to lay down tens/hundreds of thousands and then simply expect me to find the one right path on my own with the intention of lighting me on fire for all eternity if I were tricked into choosing wrong, as the Bible clearly says most people searching will be, was a massively idiotic idea.

I was taught that God doesn't give us undeniable proof of his existence as a test of faith...those with righteous minds would find him. Joker and any other Catholics, what are your thoughts on this?

So once again you're talking out your ass with absolute certainty about that which is literally impossible to know with any certainty.

You are clearly responding to Balaco there buddy, if not, you need to learn to format your posts better.

Wait... so your method of determining if a word is synonymous is whether or not it has the same number of references?

Did I EVER argue that they weren't synonyms?  I argued that when you said there was "no difference", that was wrong.  Faith IS a synonym of belief, but synonym does not mean "Means the same thing as the other word, in all instances, without question".  They are "synonyms", but there IS "a difference".  If there were "no difference" then the definitions would be the same.  There would be "no difference" in the definitions.

But all of this semantics bullshit aside, I have proved my point that "faith" and "belief" are commonly used as DIFFERENT words having DIFFERENT meanings.  I only took exception to the part where you said there was "no difference", so yeah, your facepalm graphic there hit the nail on the head because it is like pulling teeth trying to get a simple point across to you.

I stop reading when people start to bicker about the semantics.

Then stop reading.  I don't give a fuck.  Frankly this is one of the more intelligent responses I've gotten from you.  So, good job!  Way to raise the bar!  Now I'm going to expect it in the future, though.

Being synonymous doesn't mean there is no difference. Context is important. Boat is a synonym for canoe, but not all boats are canoes. All faith is belief, but not all belief is faith. Faith is a particular kind of belief. I believe the sun will come up in the morning. That is not equivalent to I have faith that God will regrow my lost arm. If there was truly no difference between the word 'belief' and the word 'faith', their definitions would be identical.

You see, it's not that hard.  It took Mister Agenda very little effort to examine what I was saying and determine, not only what it was that I was saying, but that it was accurate.  It's actually very simple.  "Synonymous" does not mean "Exactly the same in all instances; no difference"

Did you forget you gave an example of context?

I can't tell you how many times a Christian has told me that God couldn't prove himself because then we would have to believe and faith wouldn't be necessary.

Faith in God, and belief in God are the same thing.