(January 23, 2017 at 3:31 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:Neo-Scholastic Wrote:Of course atheists can be good without god, but they cannot logically claim to be good without referencing some transcendent source of the good.
That's some ludicrously obvious bullshit right there.
He's right though. On what basis do we claim that a particular act is objectively good? Why is it good to help people and bad to hurt people?
I've heard it said that I help other people for the good of our species because it comes back to me and helps keep me alive. Because we each evolved to stay alive by helping out in our communities.
But at some point in the future we will get to a place where we are so over populated, that it will be to our personal benefit for other people (unless they are particularly important) to die, not for them to live. Do we eventually evolve to think that hurting people is good and helping them is bad?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh