(January 18, 2017 at 5:49 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:(January 18, 2017 at 4:37 pm)Pulse Wrote: Well if we want to look at the moral argument, when people blame religion for bombings and wars in general, they seem to ignore the tragic history of the 20th century, which saw more deaths from acts of violence and oppression than all previous centuries put together. These were systematically inflicted on millions of people by their own governments. Names like Stalin, Mao Zedong, and Pol Pot have become infamous, all atheists. So to say that atheism is this harmless belief system, is very flawed indeed.
Bolded by me.
To say that atheism is a belief system this far into this thread is not only flawed but disingenuous and self-serving. But do let me know if you notice any atheists here defending Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot, and I'll gladly excoriate them -- not in the name of atheism but of simple human decency. No god is needed for that.
It always amuses me when theists think that if they can find just one example where what they're saying is right it means they are right in all cases. For SOME ATHEISTS, yes, it can be a belief system. To to hold atheism as a belief system is not a requisite for being atheistic, which, I believe, is exactly what you just said.
I think it's a symptom of the black and white, right or wrong, all or none thinking much theism, particularly Christianity instills. After all, prove Jesus was not a real person and the whole system falls apart. If their faith says you can't touch alcohol at all, prove Jesus drank or that the wine at the wedding wasn't "strong grape juice" and their entire belief system falls apart. Prove just ONE THING they believe to be wrong and their entire faith is garbage because that's how their belief works. It's all or none. So they think they can apply that shit to reality. After all, their magical belief are "reality".
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